Advice needed please help.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by sweet wheatz, Jan 25, 2010.

  1. sweet wheatz

    sweet wheatz Senior Member

    As some of you may know, My house was broken into reciently and several items and coins were stolen.
    Earlier thread http://www.cointalk.com/t58923/

    The police finally caught the guy which is good news. The bad news is I later found out he also stole a Morgan dollar that my grandmother gave me.
    The police told me the shop where the coins were sold. Which is in the small town next to my town. There is a chance (although really small) that the Morgan is still there. I know that the owner probably did not know it was stolen and I really can't blame him.

    My delema is how should I approach the owner of the store. I am willing to buy back the coin if need be.
     
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  3. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    If the cops knew where the stolen items were pawned, wouldn't there be some action on their part in trying to recover the items from the shop?
     
  4. coleguy

    coleguy Coin Collector

    If a dealer buys coins that are later found to be stolen, he has no claim to them and it's just a loss. They should be a little more discerning on who they buy from. They're yours and you don't need to pay a cent to have them returned.
    Guy~
     
  5. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    The police should be dealing with the shop owner, not you.
     
  6. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    This wont be a problem, But i would do a little detective work first
    Like go the pawn shop where it was sold and verify that it is there
    And then let the police know, They should be able to recover for
    You with a problem or cost!!
     
  7. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    I disagree. You don't want to show up asking questions about a particular Morgan silver dollar. Questions are inevitably going to arise about why you're so interested in it, and if the owner gets even a whiff that you're trying to recover stolen property, you're going to run into problems.

    Best thing to do is let the police handle it.
     
  8. sweet wheatz

    sweet wheatz Senior Member

    The problem is that it is a coin shop 6 miles from my house that I had been trying to find for about year. I now know where it is located. I don't blame the owner in any way. It is nearly impossible to tell if it was stolen. I want to try and be nice so I may be able to get some deals at a later date.
     
  9. borgovan

    borgovan Supporter**

    You asked for your advice because, in your own words, you had a dilemma.

    If you already have the answer in mind that you want, just just go do whatever you like.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Allyou needto do is have your local police contact the police or county sheriff where the shop is located. The police/sheriff for that locality will go get your coins for you. They have to- it is the law.

    That said, there are many dealers who will expect you to pay them for the coins. They can't make you and have no right to be paid at all. But in their words - "it's just the way things are done".

    I have personally had them tell me that when I recovered stolen coins.
     
  11. swagge1

    swagge1 Junior Member


    In your case did you pay the dealer?
     
  12. buzzard

    buzzard Active Member

    Sounds like tough luck to me. The Police sounds like your best option.
     
  13. sweet wheatz

    sweet wheatz Senior Member

    I don't think you get the question. I really don't care if I have to buy it back or not. That is not the issue. The question is, should I even bring it up to the owner? I don't even know what the coin shop is like. I don't like to burn bridges expecially with
    a shop that is so close to my house.
     
  14. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

     
  15. sweet wheatz

    sweet wheatz Senior Member

     
  16. Mark Feld

    Mark Feld Rare coin dealer

    If you don't want the police to handle it and don't care if you have to buy it back or not, then just approach the shop owner with the truth. And let him know, that even though, legally, you wouldn't have to pay to get your coin back, you would be happy to pay a fair price for it and drop the issue.
     
  17. sweet wheatz

    sweet wheatz Senior Member

    Thank you, That is all I wanted to know
     
  18. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

    It is nearly impossible to tell if it was stolen. I want to try and be nice so I may be able to get some deals at a later date.[/QUOTE]

    Well, I simply read your words. I guess you meant something different.
     
  19. sweet wheatz

    sweet wheatz Senior Member

    Well, I simply read your words. I guess you meant something different.[/QUOTE]

    No worries
     
  20. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    For one thing you really have the answers from the first replys. You should really, really allow the police to do thier job.
    I'm a bit confuse though. If the police caught the criminals, they must have already confronted the coin purchaser. Otherwise how could they know he was the criminal. The store owner would have had to identify the criminal in order for them to be able to arrest him in the first place. Otherwise how could they know he did anything unless he just walked into the police station and said I'm a crook. I robbed someone. I'm guilty. There is really something missing to this story.
    And NO you should not pay for anything that was stolen from you. I know it sounds harsh since you reallly want your coins back but think of this. How do you know the shop owner didn't know about your coins in the first place. Being nice to him may not get you anything in the way of good relationships. In fact if in with robbers, you only hurt everyone by not allowing the poice to complete their investigations if in fact they really are.
    I know what your saying about you really just want your coins back. However, you may not really get them back. Again, I'm a little confused as to how the police know who did what with what. If they know, found out, investigated, your coins should have been impounded in the first place. Then you should have had to identify them at the police station.
    As I said, there is something missing here.
     
  21. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    That was exactly what I was thinking. This all just makes no sense to me.
     
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