Addition to my crack collection

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  1. UnCommonCents

    UnCommonCents Variety Collector

    Do cracks carry a premium? Opinions on grade?
     

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  3. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    wheres the crack?
     
  4. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Obverse, vertical, almost directly through lady liberty.

    Thats pretty cool if its not PMD.
     
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  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    This variety an JR-4 rarity 1 1837 thick center 8 Bust dime. I say in F condition a 90.-100 $ value, Very cool die crack "That is not PMD"! 359,500 mintage the two varieties comes from a mintage interruption in mid 1837 to allow a new Gobrecht design the no star Liberty Seated dime.
     
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  6. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member


    oh, thought that was a scratch...
     
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  7. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Die cracks are just that cracks in the die. Thus when striking the coin the image transfer it is raised . A scratch would be missing medal or incuse not raised, as pictured in the op image.
     
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  8. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    That die crack is icing on the cake that is a nice VF+.
     
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  9. UnCommonCents

    UnCommonCents Variety Collector

    Thanks for the info Paddy! This is why i post pics. I didnt know about the thick center 8!
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    There are 4 die marriages for this date , your's is the most common one. However I still like it a lot. As a variety collector, I would be up to try and find the other 3. That sometimes drives me nuts having so many sub sets of type coins. I have a half dime with a similar half dime with a die crack like the one on yours. At 5 am I don't recall the date.
    I will have to have a look later today after I get in from work and post it.
    OK it drove me nuts it's an 1836. And when I post it later you will be surprised .
     
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  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well since my Monday morning meeting got pushed up to 10 am. Here's the image. 1836 HD Die Crack Obv..jpg 1836 HD Die Crack Rev.jpg
     
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  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    1837 was a cool year.
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  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Larry what's that in the denticals below the 1?
    Looks to be the top of an 8. And look at the second dentical left of the die crack a 3?
     
  14. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm not sure. That's the best image I can get. The only note I made on this coin was that I thought it was the Breen #3215.
     
  15. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Larry, your 1837 is the JR-3, an R-2 die marriage. This was the third (and fairly obviously final) use of this obverse die.

    A total of two obverse dies were used to create 4 1837 dime marriages. Both of these obverse dies failed catastrophically in this manner--probably due to the higher pressures created by the switch to steam presses in 1836 (which also saw one of the two obverse dies fail the same way.)
     
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  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Not always.........but they sure add interest. :)
     
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  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Larry your image is great and if you look below the 1 and 3 you'll notice a misplaced date . Nice coin for sure a lot going on with this one.
     
  18. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I wish we had all four varieties on this one to post together to compare all four. Again Larry that's one pretty dime!
    One of the best I've have ever seen of that date.
     
  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    look at the tips of the two red arrows you'll see the MPD 1837 Dime Die Crack.jpg
     
  20. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Perfect example of the effects of a cracked die/results,thanx.....
     
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  21. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I like cracks too. This is one I just sent to ANACS
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