a scarce byzantine coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by chrsmat71, Apr 22, 2015.

  1. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    hi all,
    i picked this bargain bin coin up recently off ebay, was going to clean it...but decided to just leave it as is. i wanted a half follis with the cross in the left field, this one went for a low bid, so here it is.

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    Anastasius I
    Half Follis
    491-518 AD
    O: Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right, D N ANASTASIVS P P AVC
    R: K, cross in left field flanked by N and I
    Nikomedia mint
    SB-38, BMC 63, BN 3-7, MIB 47
    21 mm
    4.5g

    this exact coin seems to be somewhat scarce, there isn't one of the type on wildwinds. should i submit it to them?
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Schwinggggg!!

    Yah, I'm totally jealous, C-dawg ... I don't have a true example of this ruler ...

    => ummm, but I do have a quasi-example of an over-struck coin (does that get me admission to your cool show?)

    HERACLIUS AE 40 nummi follis
    Struck at Syracuse, Sicily. Overstruck on a large follis of Anastasius from Constantinople
    circa 622 AD or earlier
    Diameter: 33.5mm
    Weight: 13.6g
    Obverse: Facing bust of Heraclius, monogram-cross beside, all within 9mm countermarked circle, bust of Anastasius clearly identifiable underneath
    Reverse Large M from original undertype, mintmark CON overstamped with SCLS mintmark.
    HOST COIN - ANASTASIUS I AE 40 nummi follis. Constantinople mint, circa 512-517 AD


    syracuse heraclius countermark 2.jpg

    ... hmmm, my host-coin is an "M" not a cool "K" like your new super-star!!
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2015
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Haven't seen one like it. Congratulations.
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Great looking coin & I would leave it as is too.
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hmmmm? ... ummm, how 'bout a coin that popped-up five years later?


    Vandal Horse.jpg


    ... those fricken Vandals!!! (in Carthage)
     
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  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Sure... send it in! And I agree with leaving it as-is. The light-colored encrustations give it nice contrast and eye appeal.
     
  9. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Fine C71. You might contact Dane and tell her about mine too, if you please. Anastesius.jpg Anast R.jpg
     
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  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    You should definetly submit your coin to Wildwinds. Never hurts to help.

    I have a wee piece of chocolate....

    Nikomedia
    Anastasius (491-518 AD)
    AE Small Module 40 nummis (Follis)
    struck 498-507 AD
    23.8 mm x 12.43 grams
    Obverse: Diademed bust of Anastasius- DN ANASTASIVS AV
    Reverse: Large M flanked by Stars, Delta Officina - NIC, cross above
    ref# SB32
    20141126_AnaFollis498-507AD_opt.jpg
     
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  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    thanks for comments everyone, and thanks to ski for help with the attribution.

    i'll submit the coin to wildwinds and see if they want it.

    i forgot about that cool vandal coin stevex!

    that's a nice lookin' follis AN, i picked up a follis with this coin as well...but its kind of a turd, so i didn't take a pic. maybe i will later.

    7C, that could be the same coin! it looks like there may be something above the k and/or in the right field, but i'm not certain. it does look like it has some little BD spots, it may not be...but did you check them? make sure they are solid.
     
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  12. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I was swinging in for another pass on this coin post, when I really started looking at the piece. Intriguing is the gross irregularity in weight. The OP is K = 20 nummis. 4.5 grams circulating along side my coin M = 40 nummis 12.43 grams, same ruler same mint and same time. 4.5 x 2 = 9 grams. 4.5 x 3 = 13.5 grams. I understand the OP coin has some minor wear but I am sure the coin has made up for any weight loss by taking on material from the environment. Wow.
     
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    yeah, there is lots of variation in these byzantine coins. mine seems about going rate for the type.

    when i was attributing an anastasius follis today, i noticed the size range for the sb 19 attribution was 30-40 mm..what a spread...and the half follis are usually usually well under half weight it seems.
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2015
  14. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very cool new coin Chris, really like the Cross K reverse!!
     
  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I approve of the choice to leave it as it is. Nice coin.
     
  16. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Justi R.jpg Justinian.jpg This one of Emperor Justinian weighs 7.10 g. for the same denomination K.
     
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  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    here are my other half follis coins.

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    left: justinian i, year 18 of constantinople, sb 165, 9.9 g
    right: justin and sophia, (year 5?) thessalonica mint, sb 366, 5.9 g

    these were my first bzyantine coins, i never fully attributed them. pulled them out today and revisited them.




    and this guy...

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    phocas, year 1 or 2, nicomedia mint, sb 663, 6.5 g
     
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  18. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    This particular Follis weighs only 4.7 g. It has a convex shape up, in addition to the figure of 3 persons on the obverse. Follis 3O.jpg Follis 3R.jpg
     
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  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    7C, they are likely heraclius, heraclius constanine, and empress martina.
     
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  20. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

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