A Pontic bronze--Common but Interesting...

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  1. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    This bronze struck under Mithradates VI of Pontos appealed to me based on its styling and artistry. It is rather common and inexpensive in most grades but the details and devices are well defined. It also exhibits obvious 'flan adjustment marks' which seem to add to its appeal rather than detract from it---for me at least LOL. About 20 years or so after this coin was struck, the Romans assumed control of Amisos until about 1200 AD when the Seljuks captured the city. Amisos is modern Samsun in the north coast of Turkey.

    AE-22 of Amisos, Pontos; struck 85-65 BC
    Laureate head of Zeus right
    Eagle standing on thunderbolt, head turned back, opened wings; monogram left
    8.29 grams, 22.2 mm; SNG COP 134
    mithradates, pontus zeus and eagle.jpg


    Please post anything remotely related:)
     
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  3. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Lovely coin, nice grade. Your just knocking them out today.

    I have only this tetradrachm of Mithridates VI.

    Mith62.jpg
     
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  4. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Couple of more things I like about this coin...

    It has those Pontic scratches that we see on other Bronze alloy coins of the period.

    I like the irregularity of the text. The size and alignment of the letters are all over the place. Any guesses on the reason for these two things?

    Also the coin appears to be brass. Interesting.
     
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  5. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    I've chosen 2 coins of Amisos. The first has Nike and Gorgoneion- BMC 1183. The second has Ares and sword in sheath, along a star, crescent and monogram apparently- BMC 1162. Hope they fit. MedsVictory O 001.jpg MedsVic R 001.jpg AmisMono O 001.jpg ArPonts R 001.jpg
     
  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    In this regard, my guess is as good as yours---hopefully someone else has run across an explanation.

    And I LOVE that Tet....

    All coins of Amisos fit 7-C...Very nice examples !!:)
     
  7. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    hi Mikey,

    one of your best coins, :D
     
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  8. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    If your coin were a Federal Rule of Civil Procedure, it would definitely be a Rule 12(e) coin.

    Uhm, for all non-lawyers, that's a compliment.
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice pick up Mikey. I have no Mithradates VI coins, but I do have some Pontos Amisos coins.
    AMISOS PONTOS 3.jpg AMISOS PONTOS.jpg AMISOS PONTOS 2.jpg AMISOS PONTOS 4.jpg
     
  10. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    WHEW ...Glad you specified the non-lawyer line...I was about to contact my retired 'Union Legal Service Plan';)

    Wonderful examples Bing!!!! And the second is absolutely gorgeous!! The first has terrific details and devices....:)
     
  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Counting the third coin from up to down, do we have a kinda sword in sheath. Why does it look different. Who is that dude on the obverse of that same coin? It seems I have a similar coin which needs to be cleaned.
     
  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Hmm, if you're referring to Bing's coin with the 'Cista Mystica?' reverse, the obverse seems to depict Mithradates VI as Dionysos.....at least according to some examples on acsearch....

    What do you think @Bing ????
     
  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Yours looks different. Mine is:
    AMISOS, PONTOS
    Æ17
    OBVERSE: Head of Dionysos with ivy-wreath right
    REVERSE: AM-ISOS, Thyrsos; monogram to right
    Struck at Amisos 85-65 BC
    4.0g, 17mm
    SNG BM 1192-1195
     
  14. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thanks Bing. I got the answer.. The fact is that I didn't post my similar coin yet.
    BTW.. What symbol did the Thyrsos have?
     
  15. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Ah, I see I counted from the wrong direction LOL

    But the second does seem to be referred to as Mithradtes in the guise of Dionysos---perhaps that is just speculation???
     
  16. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Both the second and third coins I posted display Dionysos on the obverse.
     
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  18. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Here's my Mithridates VI, recieved it from ACG as a challenge coin today. :)
    Pontic.png Amisos, Pontos 80 B.C.
    AE22, 22mm
    Obv: Gorgonian head facing on shield
    Rev: MI-ΣOY to left and right of Nike advancing right, holding palm over shoulder; ME monogram to left, VTE monogram to right
     
  19. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    "Pontic scratches", nice! I have a number of coins from Sinope, a city not far from Amisos, and they have the same abrasions. What are they for?
     
  20. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    From what I recall and have read, these 'scratches' were the result of flan filing before striking and weren't always covered by the die designs upon actual striking..
     
  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow, Mikey-Z => that's a fantastic OP-Pontos!! (congrats, it's very cool)

    I have a fairly similar example-type ... wanna see?

    Pontos Amisos Mithradates VI Eagle.jpg

    Yah, these are very sweet coin-types ... hey, we're coin-brothers!!

    Hey, your awesome example seems to have a "star?" above ... that is very cool (congrats again, dawg)

    :rolleyes:
     
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