A placeholder coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Orfew, Feb 8, 2021.

  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I have wanted one of these for a while. Many think the elephant on the reverse means that this coin was commemorating the opening of the coliseum. Whatever the meaning it is a cool coin. I have noticed these are very popular. I have seen the prices for these rise on the last several month. I would love to have one in better condition but this will serve for now.

    I like this coin with the left facing portrait on the reverse. While this type is not rare, it is interesting.

    Please post your coins with elephants.

    Ttitus AR denarius 80 CE
    Obv: Head Laureate left; IMP TITUS CAES VESPASIAN AVG PM
    Rev: Elephant standing left
    RIC 116
    Purchased from CGB February 10 2021

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  3. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Very interesting and memorable reverse type @Orfew
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great coin! If you never replace it, it is still a great coin! :)
     
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  5. Spargrodan

    Spargrodan Well-Known Member

    Nice @Orfew I have also seen that prices for some Flavians has gone up quite a lot as you say, especially for this type and Judea capta coins. Yours looks like an elephant I've seen several versions with more of a weird mouse-like kind of a creature.
     
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  6. Roerbakmix

    Roerbakmix Well-Known Member

    Hi @Orfew, if the deposits bother you so much that you regard it as a placeholder,: this specimen will clean up rather nicely imho. It's a combination of horn silver and copper deposits.
     
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  7. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    I think that's more than a placeholder! It's in perfectly nice condition, especially considering that this type doesn't come up that often. So, congratulations. I've posted before about my fondness for ancient coins with animal reverses, and have wanted one like yours since I first saw the type more than a year ago. In fact, I just ordered one myself -- from Germany, no less, even after vowing not to order coins from that country again until the mail service returns to something approaching normality. I won't post a photo here until I receive it, though -- I'm trying to prepare myself mentally not to see it for a few months anyway, and don't want to jinx things further!
     
  8. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

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  9. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

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  10. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Wow, five elephants on one coin! That must be some sort of record.
     
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  11. robinjojo

    robinjojo Well-Known Member

    This my only ancient depicting an elephant, on the reverse.

    Athens, tetradrachm, Antiochus, 163-162 BC.
    Thompson 396d
    ex Harlan Berk, early 90's

    16.8 grams

    D-Camera Athens new style tetradrachm, Antiochus, 163-2 BC, 16.8 g, 8-23-20.jpg
     
  12. AussieCollector

    AussieCollector Moderator Moderator

    Lovely coin @Orfew !

    I don't have any elephants. Only a dirty, smelly camel from the Roman Republic :)

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    M. Aemilius Scaurus and P. Plautius Hypsaeus AR Denarius. Rome, 58 BC.
    Obv: M•SCAVR AED CVR, kneeling figure right (King Aretas of Nabataea), holding olive branch and reins of camel beside him; EX-S•C across fields, REX ARETA in exergue
    Rev: [P•HVPSAE] AED CVR, Jupiter in quadriga left, holding reins in left hand and hurling thunderbolt with right; scorpion below horses; CAPTV on right; C HVPSAE COS PREIVE in exergue.
    Crawford 422/1b; BMCRR Rome 3878; RSC Aemilia 8 and Plautia 8. 4.07g
     
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  13. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    ELEPHANT, but not a Vespasian...

    I really like this "placeholder" in my collection... don't think I will ever be able to uptick this one for a while.

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    Etruria
    3rd C BCE
    AE 18mm 4.76g
    Head African r
    Elephant r letter below
    SNG Cop 48 HNI 69 SNG Paris 138-140 SNG Morcom 44
    RARE
     
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  15. jamesicus

    jamesicus Well-Known Member

    I agree Brian.
     
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  16. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I think my elephants win the "placeholder" prize. Yuck. :vomit:

    Titus and Philip the Arab:

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  17. Carl Wilmont

    Carl Wilmont Well-Known Member

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    Demetrios I Soter (162-150 BC). Serrate AE. 17 mm, 3.35 g. Antioch mint.
    Horse's head left. / BAΣIΛEΩΣ ΔHMHTPIOY, elephant's head right.
     
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  18. DonnaML

    DonnaML Well-Known Member

    Me too! In real life as much as on coins
     
  19. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    A respectable 'pace-holder'. Congrats Andrew!
     
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  20. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Elephants to right (unusual):
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    Divus Vespasian. Died AD 79. Æ Sestertius (33 mm, 25.45 g, 5h). Rome mint. Struck under Titus, 80-81 AD. Obv: Deified Vespasian seated right, holding scepter and Victory in cart drawn by a quadriga of elephants with riders. Rev: Legend around large S • C. RIC II 257 (Titus)
     
  21. akeady

    akeady Well-Known Member

    This is a modern elephant placeholder.

    Obv. ESPANA 2011 10 EURO - Laureate head of Melqart with features of Hannibal left
    Rev. Elephant walking right
    Mint: Madrid (10,000)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 27.00g / 33.0mm / 0h
    Acquisition: Real Casa de la Moneda Madrid 20-Sep-2012
    Notes: Nov 15, 12 - Reproduction of Hispano-Punic coin of Hannibal
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    I just realised that I had the right-facing Titus version of the OP's coin.
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    This coin survived a trip to the washing machine

    Obv. IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M - Laureate head right
    Rev. TR P IX IMP XV COS VIII P P - Elephant left
    Mint: Rome (79 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 3.18g / 18mm / 8h
    References:
    • RSC 303
    • BMC 43
    • RIC 115
    • RIC 22a (old)
    Acquisition: Coinee eBay 27-Oct-2009

    ATB,
    Aidan.
     
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