A few foreign coins...Some help??

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by 52Chevy, Jul 24, 2011.

  1. 52Chevy

    52Chevy New Member

    These are coins that I my grandpa gave me a while ago, plus some that I have recently found. Most of them I do not know much about at all...

    111_0278.jpg 111_0279.jpg the date is 1918 it says "One Penny" on the reverse, and "GEORGIVS V DEI GRA:bRITT:OMN:REX FID:DEF:IND:IMP" on the outer rim of the front. I'm guessing Greek?

    111_0287.jpg 111_0285.jpg The date is 1955 "Franco Caudillo..(thats where the whole is) Espana Por La G.De Dois". On the reverse it says "Una Peseta" So I'm guessing its a spanish coin of some sort.

    Any help is greatly appreciated.
     
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  3. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    it's a british penny from king george v's reign. the "dei gra," etc. is abbreviated latin. it translates to "george the fifth, by the grace of god, king of all the british territories, defender of the faith, and emperor of india."
     
  4. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    The Spanish legend "Francisco Franco Caudillo de Espana Por La G.De Dios" was an attempt by the late dictator Francisco Franco to convince the Spanish people that he had been chosen by God to lead Spain.

    The "G" stands for "Gracia", or "Grace". The English translation of the entire legend would be "Francisco Franco, Leader of Spain by the Grace of God".
     
  5. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Well, many rulers used, or even still use, such "by the grace of God" titles. Usually they have crowns on their heads though. ;) In the case of Franco, he saw (or "sold") himself as a kind of placeholder - the kings before him had that "Por la G. de Dios" (in the very same "G."-only style) on their coins too.

    Then came the republic - without any "divine grace" on the coins of course. After the civil war and the first years of the Falange regime, Franco re-established (in 1947) the monarchy, with himself as a kind of regent. That is also why he picked a title that, without making him a king, suggested a leadership by the grace of God much like what the former kings and queens had. His successor, so to say, King Juan Carlos, is simply a king - no "G." involved ...

    Christian
     
  6. 52Chevy

    52Chevy New Member

    Awesome thanks guys, any idea if they are worth anything? or just neat to have?
     
  7. rarecoin

    rarecoin New Member

    how much is the one from spain worth
    ps: the coin says Franco Caudillo with the grace of god (knid of funny becouse he was not a good person).
     
  8. rarecoin

    rarecoin New Member

    also i have a half soveriegn if you have heard of them and it is in prity good condtion what would be a range for the coin from terible to great coindition it is from 1909 and minted in london.
     
  9. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Sure about that 1955 date? I don't think there is such an authorization date, and am not sure whether there is such a production date, for the 1 peseta ...

    Christian
     
  10. Augustine1992

    Augustine1992 Member

    love the back of the british penny
     
  11. 52Chevy

    52Chevy New Member

    Nope 55 was an error, it's 1953. Sorry about that.
     
  12. 52Chevy

    52Chevy New Member

    I do as well, It's probably my favorite coin in my collection. (Shows how great my collection is so far...)
     
  13. andyscouse

    andyscouse Collector of Brit stuff

    The 1 peseta coin's 'actual' date is contained in the stars on the obverse, either side of "UNA"; one will have '19', the other the actual two-digit year.

    These are very common, but nice to have.

    Spanish coins had this 2-date system (authorisation date and 'production' date) right up until 1982.
     
  14. andyscouse

    andyscouse Collector of Brit stuff

    Yes - it is a marvellous design! Shared with the farthing and halfpenny up until 1936, and then after decimalisation, Britannia went to the 50p. Alas, since 2009, Britannia is no longer on any circulating coin for the first time in over 200 years :( She is, however, still on the silver bullion Britannia coins.
     
  15. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    Your Spanish coin has a hole in it, so that eliminates any real collector value it would have. The British penny looks like it might be cleaned or at least is well worn, so that wouldn't really be worth much either. But I think the British pennies are one of the coolest coins there is.
     
  16. rarecoin

    rarecoin New Member

    how much is the spanish coin worth with and without the hole
     
  17. Hiddendragon

    Hiddendragon World coin collector

    We don't know exactly what year it is, but almost every 1 peseta from that era is worth from 10 cents to a dollar in average condition. With a hole it's not worth anything as a collectible. Some people still collect coins with holes but it's usually older and rarer coins, and they pay a lot less than they would otherwise be worth. Yours was probably used for jewelry at one time and that's really all it's good for now.
     
  18. 52Chevy

    52Chevy New Member

    I figured it wouldn't be, and since its not worth much I think I shall find a chain to put it on and wear it. Then I'll always have a piece of my grandpa nearby(he was a huge influence in my life so it has some sentimental value at least :) )
     
  19. 52Chevy

    52Chevy New Member

    And the second star is worn enough without a loupe or magnifying glass(which I currently do not have I usually use my buddies) I cannot tell what it says.
     
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