A fellow detectorist found this in NJ...

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by jimmiejam, Dec 11, 2004.

  1. jimmiejam

    jimmiejam New Member

    It would be fun to live out east and find these type of coins.
    A 1793 half cent. Cool stuff.
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  3. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Yeah Jim, there's a lot of history around here.
    Lots of Revolutionary and Civil War battlefields, Colonial settlements, Southern plantations.
    I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

    I will admit, though, some of the nicest people I've ever met, were up there in Michigan.
     
  4. cholmes75

    cholmes75 New Member

  5. Andy

    Andy Coin Collector

    Well Jimmiejam, I think that you should think about vacationing in Florida during Hurricane season. Seems you have alot of metal dectator kinfolk down here scanning the beaches and some claim that there is alot to be found and has been reclaimed. You know, sunken spanish gallons treasures washing ashore beneath a thin layer of sand.
     
  6. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    That's a great find! I too would like to know where in NJ. One of these days, I have to get a detector. Maybe my husband and I could take long, romantic walks on the beach with our metal detector. Well, I guess the romance would be gone when he had to start digging :D
     
  7. cholmes75

    cholmes75 New Member

    My wife supports my coin collecting (even though she doesn't collect), but if I bought a metal detector she would ship me to the loony bin faster than you could say 'rubber room.' :)
     
  8. Andy

    Andy Coin Collector

    "That's a great find! I too would like to know where in NJ. One of these days, I have to get a detector. Maybe my husband and I could take long, romantic walks on the beach with our metal detector. Well, I guess the romance would be gone when he had to start digging " SusanLynn.

    Well I think Captain Kidd is thought to have buried treasure along the coastline from New Jersey, Staten Island, NY or maybe even up the Hudson. His spoils, if I remember correctly were never completely recovered.
     
  9. Andy

    Andy Coin Collector

    Treasure Hunt: For all of you coin collectors who collected coins not from e-bay but with metal detecters.

    "Since the time of Captain Kidd's death many rumors have surfaced indicating that his treasure may be buried in New Jersey. He claimed to have buried 40,000 British pounds, of which only 10,000 pounds have been found. When gold pieces were discovered on Gardiners Island off Long Island, New York, many people became excited and believed more treasure was buried nearby in New Jersey.

    There are several beaches in New Jersey where Captain Kidd's treasure may be buried. Here are some of the most popular rumored places, and some local stories.

    Cape May

    Long ago, pirates loved to come and dock at Cape May because the cape had many marshes and creeks where they could hide. These buccaneers would wait for a ship heading to Philadelphia to come into the bay, and they would come out from their hiding place, attack the ship, and steal its cargo.

    One place Captain Kidd's treasure could be buried is in Del Haven. Maps and newly discovered documents point to the town. If the maps are right, it would be located under a present-day office complex.

    Many legends suggest that there is pirate treasure buried at Cape May Point. One story says a man in charge of a life saving station noticed a ship offshore. According to the eyewitness, men left the ship and went ashore on a yawl (a small boat). They disappeared behind some sand dunes and came out with a treasure chest. After they brought the treasure chest to the ship, they sailed away. This may or may not have been Captain Kidd's treasure. When the story spread, people started to dig on the beaches.

    Ocean City

    Pirates who did not stop at Cape May often stopped at Ocean City. The location allowed them to look out for British authorities. From their vantage point in Ocean City, the pirates also had time to set sail and escape arrest. Captain Kidd may have stopped here on his way to Boston because he could safely bury his treasure and avoid capture.

    Highlands

    In 1948, a lobsterman found old gold coins on the beach of the Highlands. This started a gold rush, and locals and people from all over came to dig on the beach. By the end of the week, a large number of gold coins had been found.

    People originally thought the coins were the treasure of Captain Kidd. Upon further evaluation, however, it was determined they were made after his time: the coins are dated 1730, but Captain Kidd was hanged in 1701. It is believed that the coins came from a British frigate ship that sank nearby.

    Sandy Hook

    Captain Kidd anchored off of Sandy Hook during his final trip to New York and Boston. Many people think Kidd buried his treasure here, not knowing if the governor in Boston would help him or not. Captain Kidd supposedly buried his treasure in a grove of pine trees, but the trees were destroyed years ago. No one knows where the trees were located.

    Barnegat Bay

    According to legend, Captain Kidd buried his treasure somewhere in Barnegat Bay. Then he beheaded one of his crewmembers to watch over it because he wanted to make sure no one stole it before he returned. Though Captain Kidd never came back for the treasure, the ghost of the crewmember is still there. People have said they have seen him walking on the beach and in the marshes.

    Cliffwood Beach

    Cliffwood Beach is located on the border of Monmouth and Middlesex counties near Aberdeen.

    During the time of Captain Kidd there was an island near Cliffwood Beach called Money Island. Spanish gold coins were found there, which was how it got its name. The island has since eroded into the Raritan Bay. Nearby, there is a lake called Treasure Lake. More gold coins were found here, which is why its name changed from Duck Pond to Treasure Lake.

    There are other clues indicating that Captain Kidd's treasure might be buried here. Two giant elm trees stood nearby. They were called Kidd's Rangers. One was near the mouth of the Matawan Creek. The other was located in Rose Hill, which is now a cemetery. Legend says these trees were used to guide Kidd to his treasure. The treasure is believed to be in the middle of the trees. Coincidentally, Cliffwood Beach is located in the same spot - between the same two trees".
     
  10. jimmiejam

    jimmiejam New Member

    I have not asked him personally but I can. I know he always posts his name as "Don from South Jersey" If ya want more info on the whereabouts I could ask him.
     
  11. susanlynn9

    susanlynn9 New Member

    Since I live in South Jersey, I would definitely be interested! :D
     
  12. jimmiejam

    jimmiejam New Member

    Hi guys, I just got the ok from Don. He lives in Atlantic County. About 20 miles from Atlantic city. He usually detects in the woods at cellar holes. Has found some really great coins over the years.
     
  13. pcrdnadave

    pcrdnadave Senior Member

    How much would loosing that 1/2 cent back then be like loosing in today's dollars?
     
  14. the_highlander

    the_highlander New Member

    being from the highlands i know what your saying.I think were totaly spoiled in the uk for choice when it comes to metal detecting there is hardly a field in england that you wouldnt find something in.

    in the south there are so many old roman coins found they are considered a pest to detectorists.i was brought up beside culloden battlefield, this was where the last stand of the scots before the uk became a union was fought.In the mountains and glens all around there are sure to be buried treasures, the odd nice find is found too.Though amazingly there are very few people that do metal detecting there a very scare breed there is more train spotters or bird spotters.

    Metal detecting kinda carries a stigma like someone that would stand on a train platform taking the numbers off the trains would.Its kinda seen as the height of geekiness.Also on that point coin collectors are not that known too very few of them.Probably most scottish coins go to the usa/canada/australia.

    Ive no idea how this is the situation as in england its a bit diffrent.I have never even heard of a coin shop in scotland, infact i doubt there is one in the whole country there might be one in edinburgh or glasgow but that will be it.Rare coins that would makes 1000s in the usa if they carried the same history make very little, there just aint the collectors for them.In a country of 5 million people i bet you would have a hard job finding 1000 collectors and half of these would be common museum curators.
     
  15. ziggy29

    ziggy29 Senior Member

    Probably worse than losing a dime but not as bad as losing a quarter.
     
  16. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    There's a member right here on this Forum that lives in Scotland. So they can't be all THAT scarce ;)

    But if they truly are - I'm gonna send him a case of Scotch, let him get pickled - and then have him slabbed :D :D
     
  17. the_highlander

    the_highlander New Member

    rofl

    heck we got enough whisky(thats not whiskey)

    thats like saying to an american "have a good case of american there"its just weird.Infact on your next trip to scotland walk in a bar and say can i have a glass of scotch and see what happens:)

    im serious about the scottish coin collectors its not a common thing, infact you could go through your whole life and not meet another collector.Unlike bird watchers or train spotters we got nowhere to congregate together.there is obviously british coin club but never heard of a soley scottish one.And ive never even heard of a coin shop anywhere in scotland.

    which considering the english spread rumours around the world about us being money grabbing is very strange.
     
  18. Andy

    Andy Coin Collector

    "But if they truly are - I'm gonna send him a case of Scotch, let him get pickled - and then have him slabbed". GD

    Reminds me of an old Vincent Price movie where he
    got the heir to the crown drunk and then pushed him into a vat of mead or whisky to drown.

    "Metal detecting kinda carries a stigma like someone that would stand on a train platform taking the numbers off the trains would.Its kinda seen as the height of geekin" Highlander.

    Funny but it is the same here. But some of those metal detectors are the ones who are laughing after a good find. I myself view it as a form of getting out and about and having some fun for those who do it and it seems to me that those who look down on it would think watching 8 hrs of TV a day is a cool thing. I myself have thought about it especially when I see all of the gold that the Ritz Carlton beach goers wear down here:)
     
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