I just got back from visiting with my dad. We just recently started talking again and found out that we share a interest in coins. He gave me a few coins and I will post those later but I also took pictures of some of his to try to help him get an idea of value. Here are a couple I have a question about. The first is the coin in the middle. It is a lincoln cent that is the size of about a dime (smaller than normal) and looks funny to me. Not sure what it's called or value? Any ideas? The second is a nickel it is mishapen you can't tell that too much by the picture but it is not shaped in a perfect circle and is larger on one side than a nickel. Plus it has extra markings on the front and back. What are these errors called. How common what would an approximate value be? Thanks for the help. I'm gonna go get dinner and I will be back to post more pics of other coins.
The nickel is a winner ! it's been struck over a penny a very rare error! worth some bucks! Blockage error plus looks as if a penny got left in the chamber and struck on to the nickel planchet! Very nice find ....or wrong planchet a coin struck on a metal intended for another demomination. Would love to add this to my Jeffersons collection... drools and then posts his reply lol Paddy
The red book said that you can have a cent struck on dime planchets nickels on cent planchets or quarters on dime planchets but nothing about a penny struck on a nickel? Thus you can have a nickel struck on a penny blank....but no no penny struck on a nickel blank! The red Book sez NP not possible..... I do see a nickel planchet with the Lincoln memorial on the rev....? Paddy
I have to disagree that the nickel is a genuine counterfeit. It seems to me that it is a "hammer job", as in what happened is someone took a cent coin and placed it on the nickel and gave it blow - hence giving the nickel an overall inverse impression of the cent.
the penny isn't anything special, someone probably lightly tapped the edges with a hammer for a while to make it smaller.
Rarity Level : 4-5 values $140.00 and up! Nickels especially dated in the early 80's are frequently found on cent planchets.......in nornal circumstances a coin larger than the dies cannot enter the coining chamber without the help by a mint enployee.... thus a penny could not be struck on a nickel planchet. I believe it was an mint enployee who made this error still very cool ! Paddy
Man, I don't know. Would it even work? I would think the penny would be soft enough to where it would deform before it would put an impression that deep into a nickel. And you'd only get one chance to do it because you could never line it up perfectly again. Maybe a machine at a factory could press it if somebody was ****in around? It's interesting that you can see Liberty and a penny date stamped into the obverse of it as well. The rim of a penny sticks out past the date to protect it so I'm not sure how you would accomplish this even with a machine. Unless somebody took some time and made their own die or punch. Are the penny details on the nickel incuse as in stamped into the surface or are they raised above the surface like on a penny? Edit: Ok, from the pics it does look like it's punched into it. A normal Lincoln die should have raised the metal. Typically a mule coin will come from say a nickel obverse clashing from a cent reverse on accident. It doesnt' make any sense why both sides would be affected so I've come to the conclusion that this is probably a doctored coin that somebody made to try to scam somebody or maybe just for the fun of it.
Just a guess, but maybe that small, middle penny was what was used to make the impression on the nickel? Maybe that's why it's something weird and very dull now?
They aren't mine. They are still his I just have possession of them right now. If they were mine I wouldn't even think about selling them. He did give me a few coins today that no matter what the value I will always treasure them. He asked me to find the value of some of the other coins for him. Thanks though!
sometimes if a coin is stuck in the die it will develop a high raised rim, I have an example of it, forgot just now what the correct term for them is though, there is a right word for it, just having a brain vacation.
I might be wrong, but I think the middle coin might be a "Dryer Coin". They don't have any value because its just a damaged coin.
These coins are post mint damaged. There's nothing there other than face value and/or sentimental value.
Both coins are just post-mint damage, the nickel is a squeeze or hammer job. Worth face value, if the cashier will take them.
