A coin with a hole!! Why???

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by maridvnvm, Jun 2, 2015.

  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    So I have bought a coin with a hole.
    I am expecting Doug to know immediately but am throwing this at the rest of you first...

    What have I bought? Why am I happy with my purchase despite the hole?

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    Martin
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    jewelry?

    looks modern (the hole)
     
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  4. Dilly dollar

    Dilly dollar Active Member

    to me it looks like some body punched and hole in it to make a neck lace.
     
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  5. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Looks like the guy in your profile pic... I'm still trying to make out the inscription
     
  6. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    there was a character (mafia dude I can't name) in the TV show Rome that used chains of silver coins as a sort of decorative for his toga.
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Sorry, I do not know why it might be special
     
  8. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I'm guessing it's a coin of Commodus (an AS or Sestertius) by what I can 'read' of the legend...other than that I'd have to 'research' it a bit more...and it must be 'rare' or otherwise scarce---so I'm also guessing it is scarcer in that denomination than say a denarius???

    As for the 'hole', it's a curious location for mounting a chain, but I have one of Hadrian that was apparently 'holed' centuries ago (how can one actually tell?) and worn so the portrait was straight and visible as in our photos....

    That's all I can tell or guess at this point....
     
  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Commodus is correct. It is a denarius. So the denomination is nothing special.
    It's not the guy from my Avatar, who is Septimius Severus.
     
  10. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    commodus with libra holding pileus looked like
    edit:
    LIB AVG PM TRP ...
    obv: M COMM ANT P FEL AVG restcannotread
     
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  11. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Hanniballianus.jpg

    Hannibalianus, AE4, 336-337 AD, Constantinople, als Rex regum unter Constantine I. 1.6g, 14mm

    OBV: FL HANNIBALLIANO REGI, bare-headed, draped, cuirassed bust right.

    REV: SE-CVRITAS PVBLICA, Euphrates seated right on ground, holding sceptre, overturned urn at his side, from which waters flow, reed in background. Mintmark CONSS.

    REF: RIC VII Constantinople 147.

    This is my only holed coin. If no one would have guessed, I would not have known except it's a Commodus.
     
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  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Well, one more guess....by what you said Martin and by the reverse, it seems to be a denarius of Commodus with a TRP suggesting a date of November 27 AD 176---so that is before he was actually Emperor in 180 AD, yet the legend seems to say AVG ??? Or perhaps it is the hole itself and how it got there that is the key???

    That's it for me LOL
     
  13. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    No. The coin is actually a late issue at A.D. 192 but that isn't it.
     
  14. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    The star is in the wrong place ?
     
  15. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

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    Actually that's not exactly it. but this was struck in 190 so...
     
  16. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

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  17. Cyrrhus

    Cyrrhus Well-Known Member

    Hello,

    In Arabia, Turkey it is quite common now and in the past that people where small chains with coins, this is a part of status, you see many Ottoman coins with holes, it is a pitty that they pierce golden Ottoman coins, we know all better be they like to show them off.

    Once I was in Perge and a Turkish lady was selling beads and other stuff, I was not interested but she also was wearing gold earhangers, I looked and saw these look Roman, I said how much for those? hahaaahahah she said not for sale...she was smart, they looked fantastic.
     
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  18. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Beats me Martin...
     
  19. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Mikey Zee has it.

    The fact that there were coins produced in Alexandria for Commodus is a fairly recent discovery with the majority of the credit belonging to the late Roger Bickford-Smith. They can be attributed purely on style and there are only a few examples known. There are two types, the Libertas type illustrated here and an eagle - CONSECRATIO type, which is also on my search list.

    I have been seraching for one for years. Finding one with a hole is a very acceptable hole filler.

    Martin
     
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  20. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    That is so cool Martin---and it was a lot of fun for me to find out what was extraordinary about that particular coin!
     
  21. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    The general reason why coins were made with a central hole was that the users did not have pockets.(or even much in the way of clothes) See Chinese, Japanese and African coins. Coins were carried on a string. This hole is just modern vandalism.
     
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