A Coin of Celtic Britain, Imitating Claudius

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The Roman conquest of Britain didn't begin in earnest until the reign of Claudius, after which occur these imitative types, modeled after asses of Claudius with Minerva reverse...

    celtic claud.jpg

    Are they rare? I could only find this one for comparison - the engraver of that coin was obviously attempting a more faithful copy of the Roman style.

    Where were they minted, and by which tribe(s)? My guess is the Trinovantian tribal oppidum of Camulodunon (modern Colchester), as the Trinovantes had been minting coins there for some time prior to Roman incursion, and Camulodunon falls squarely in the middle of the sphere of Claudian campaigns (yellow lines at lower right)...

    Roman.Britain.campaigns.43.to.84.jpg

    Again, any information anyone can share on this type would be greatly appreciated!
     
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  3. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    Cool coin, John!

    What is the diameter and weight?

    John
     
  4. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    I have no idea, but the celtic style is charming...cool coin JA!
     
  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A neat coin John!
     
  6. RAGNAROK

    RAGNAROK Naebody chaws me wi impunitY

    C. H. V. Sutherland, Romano-British Imitations of Bronze Coins of Claudius I. (Numismatic Notes and Monographs, 65). New York: The American Numismatic Society, Broadway at 156th Street, 1935.
     
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  7. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Check out "Counterfeit Coins in Roman Britain" in Coins and the Archaeologist.
     
  8. lehmansterms

    lehmansterms Many view intelligence as a hideous deformity

    These are among the original "Limes Falsa" types and are known in both Britain and northern Gaul during the same time-frame.
    (This is also why the now-accepted term "Limes Denarius" is absurd, but I guess it's too late to change that perception now.)
    Just to share - this is a "Limes" contemporary copy of an Agrippa Neptune as - with a C/M of Claudius. There is some question whether the C/M was applied post-strike or was built into the dies originally to make the piece appear to have a C/M officially approving it for circulation.
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  9. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

  10. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    No. They are common in England. They do not sell well enough for a lot of them to have been brought across the Atlantic, but many are over there, in all sizes from close to the original, to very thin and much smaller. As @Marsyas Mike noted, there is a site which illustrates a variety of them.
     
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  11. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Thanks you very much Warren! I suppose I should always check your pages first.
     
  12. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    JA, cool imitative of Claudius. My is mine.

    ~Doug

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  13. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Once upon a time, this cruder, imitative stuff would not have done anything for me aesthetically, though I have always appreciated its history.

    It's kind of growing on me a little bit, though. That is indeed a cool coin.
     
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  14. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    I'm not entirely sure if mine is imitative or not. The condition is rough enough I couldn't tell. It weighs 10.14 grams which is closer to an "official" weight I think.
    Claudius - As Minerva rev. 2016 (1).jpg
    Claudius - As Minerva rev. 2016 (2).jpg
     
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  15. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    That one looks "official" to me, but what do I know? Not that much.
     
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