A Coin Fit for a Brothel or a Latrine

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by David Atherton, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    My latest arrival very likely had a colourful history because of its lowly status. These are the kind of coins that have an unknowable but rich history.



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    Vespasian
    Æ Quadrans, 2.31g
    Rome Mint, 77-78 AD
    RIC 1015 (R). BMC 740A.
    Obv: IMP VESPASIAN AVG; Rudder on globe
    Rev: P M TR P P P COS VIII; S C in field; Caduceus, winged
    Acquired from Numismatica Prada, April 2019.

    The quadrans in the early imperial period typically lacked an imperial portrait. Possibly the denomination was deemed so lowly by mint officials that a portrait was considered improper. They were struck haphazardly and functioned primarily as an urban low value coinage in Rome and central Italy. The quadrans was the typical fee for entry into the baths, a urinal, or for a tryst in a cheap brothel. Being of rather low value quadrantes were not typically hoarded and thus are relatively scarce today. The rudder over globe suggests Vespasian's continued steady hand guiding the empire. This example is nicely centred and well preserved for the type.

    Show off your quadrantes!
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I've never had much love for quadrans, hence why I have never bought one. But yours I like.
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Quadrans:

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    RR C Curiatius f Trigeminus 135 BCE Æ quadrans 18 mm 4.8g Rome Hd Hercules lionskin 3 plts - CCVR F ROMA prow Victory wreath 3 plts Cr 240-4a; Syd460b


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    RR AE Quadrans 18mm 3.6g Rome 206-195 BCE Hercules R wearing lions skin pellet behind - ROMA Prow of galley right 3 pellets Cr339-4a; Syd679c


    RR Aes Grave AE Quadrans 230 BCE Dog 3 pellets Six spoked wheel 59.8g Craw 26-6a Th-Vecchi 34.JPG
    RR Aes Grave AE Quadrans 230 BCE Dog 3 pellets Six spoked wheel 59.8g Craw 26-6a Th-Vecchi 34


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    RR Anon AE 28mm 19.2g Quadrans - Sicily mint 214-212 BCE Hercules-Erymanthian boar headress - Bull ex RBW Craw 72-7 Scarce


    Frentani - Larinum AE 18mm Quadrans 210-175 BCE Herakles - Centaur SNG COP 272.JPG
    Frentani - Larinum AE 18mm Quadrans 210-175 BCE Herakles - Centaur SNG COP 272
     
  5. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    There actually was a quadrans with the image of Trajan's Column struck under that dude's reign. I used to have it in my old collection (that I sold when I was 18) unfortunately. I paid almost $100 for it back in the 1980's. The dealer, Frank L. Kovacs, told me it was quite rare.
     
  6. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Not one you see too often! I like it. :)

    My most recent quadrans is one very often seen, but not in this condition:
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    TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG, modius / PON M TR P IMP P P COS II around large S C. RIC 90.
     
  7. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

  8. Ryro

    Ryro Trying to remove supporter status

    Great coin. Never seen the type!
    One of my favorite Vespy quotes starts, "Smell this coin..."

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    Gaius (Caligula)

    37-41 CE. Æ Quadrans (17.5mm, 2.48g, 6h). Rome mint. Struck AD 40. C • CAESAR • DIVI • AVG • PRON • AVG •, pileus between S C / PON • M TR • P • III • P P • COS • TERT • around R • C • C •. RIC I 45; BMCRE 61-3; BN 107-8. Choice EF, green patina, traces of earthen deposits.

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    Claudius

    Æ Quadrans. Rome, AD 42. TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG around modius on three legs / PONT M TR P IMP COS II around large SC. RIC 90.

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    Claudius

    (41-54 CE), Quadrans,Rome, 25 January - 3 December AD 41, AE TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG, around hand holding scales; below, P N R, Rv. PON M TR P IMP COS DES IT, around S C. RIC 85; C 71.

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    Domitian

    Circa 81-161 AD. Æ Rome Quadrans (14 mm, 1.34 gm). Diademed and draped bust of Venus right / Dove standing right. RIC II 24; Cohen 10. Near VF
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    But my favorite is:
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    AUGUSTUS
    AE Quadran
    OBVERSE: SISENNA MESSALLA IIIVIR, altar
    REVERSE: APRONIVS GALLVS AAAFF around SC
    Rome 5 BC , Moneyers Apronius, Galus, Messalla, and Sisena
    3.0g, 17mm
    RIC 463 or 200 in Old RIC
     
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  10. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    An interesting coin David. I have never seen this type before.
     
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  11. Aleph

    Aleph Well-Known Member

    An older purchase, and an interesting example from the Flavian period- auction house photo. Not in ric but maybe in the addendum?
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    David, I am surprised you passed on a chance to mention Vespasian’s famous quote regarding urine and taxes: Pecunia non olet (money doesn’t stink).
     
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  12. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I actually had the quip in my notes to include in the write-up but somehow forgot. Thanks for mentioning it because it's a perfect fit for the theme of the thread!

    Your semis is indeed in the Addenda - RIC 835A. Awesome coin with a great provenance!
     
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  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Did you know the quadrans (Greek κοδράντης) is mentioned twice in the Bible? The two verses are:

    Mark 12:42
    καὶ ἐλθοῦσα μία χήρα πτωχὴ ἔβαλεν λεπτὰ δύο, ὅ ἐστιν κοδράντης.
    "And one poor widow came and threw two leptons, which is a quadrans."

    Matthew 5:26
    ἀμὴν λέγω σοι, οὐ μὴ ἐξέλθῃς ἐκεῖθεν ἕως ἂν ἀποδῷς τὸν ἔσχατον κοδράντην.
    "Truly I tell you, you will not come out from there until you have paid back the last quadrans."

    My favorite quadrans:

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    Trajan, AD 98-117.
    Roman AE quadrans, 3.68 g, 16.4 mm, 6 h.
    Rome, AD 98-117.
    Obv: IMP CAES NERVA TRAIAN AVG, laureate bust right, drapery on left shoulder.
    Rev: She-wolf walking right; SC in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 692; BMCRE 1060; Cohen 338; RCV --; Woytek 599b1.
     
  14. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    Here's my spindly pincher quadrans, Claudius 41-54, mint Rome. TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG around hand holding scales/ PON M TR P IMP COS DES IT around large SC. 15.5 mm, 1.77 gr.

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    And these two coins were described as (Provincial) half quadrans. And yes, they are very small. Left Hadrian:
    AE10 half quadrans Hadrian 117-138. Rome Mint for Antiochia Seleucis. Obv. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind. Rev. SC over Γin wreath. 10 mm, 1.02 gr. RPC online III, Nr. 3711 (with a different year letter; and called a chalkous).

    Right Trajan:
    AE11 half quadrans Trajan 98-117. Rome Mint for Antiochia Seleucis. Obv. Laureate bust right. Rev. SC in wreath. 11 mm, 1.48 gr. RPC online Nr. 3680 (‘chalkous’).

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  15. Aleph

    Aleph Well-Known Member

    A recent purchase related to the half quadrans. A Trajan shewolf quadrans struck on a half quadrans flan, 10.9 mm, .80 g, 12 h.
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