A Celtic Imitation of a Greek Tet

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  1. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Since I only had one modest small bronze Danubian Celt coin prior to this purchase I found this example very appealing---yet I still know very little about them. From what I've been able to discover, this Tetradrachm is a 'KUGELWANGE ' type and probably struck around the Ist century BC. It's an imitation of A Macedonian issue depicting Zeus and a 'prancing horse' and although about the correct size, the weight is substantially lower than the 'originals'. I suppose it should be considered a debased Billon Tet containing about 30-50% silver.

    As everyone knows, Celtic coinage ranges from faithful imitations, to the slightly fanciful (like mine) to the highly stylized that make me feel like I'm looking at a Picasso painting and I need to be constantly told what I'm actually looking at LOL

    Please indulge yourselves and share your Celtic coins....

    Danubian (Pannonian) Celtic AR Tetradrachm,
    imitating coins of Philip II of Macedonia.
    Struck, 2nd-Ist Century BC; 24 mm, 8.7 grams
    Laureate Zeus right
    Prancing horse left, Pellet in amulet above horse neck
    Lanz 465?

    BTW: I purchased this at FAC and due diligence does not suggest a modern forgery. And it sold for $30.50 shipped which seems like almost a bargain. What do you guys think?
    celtic tet imitation.JPG celtic tet imitation.JPG reverse.JPG
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Not an area I know well but it looks OK, and for $30, bargain for sure. Shame the horse head is off flan.
     
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  4. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Nice pick up MZ.
     
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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    There are a handful of Celtic coins I'd eventually like to buy. An imitation Philip II tetradrachm like yours is on the list :)

    At the moment I have three Celtics:

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    CELTIC, Central Europe (Rhineland). "Dancing Mannikin" type
    65 BCE - CE 1

    AR Quinarius, 13 mm, 1.62 gm
    Obv: dancing mannikin right, head turned left, holding snake in right hand, torque in left hand.
    Rev: horse standing right, head turned left; around, zig zag border.
    Ref: SLM 1118. Dembski 73, 396

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    CELTIC BRITAIN, Dobunni tribe. Eisu.
    Circa CE 20-43
    AR unit. 1.1 gm. 13 mm
    Obv: Stylized head right, pellet triads for hair, pellet in ring for eye
    Rev: Triple tailed annulet horse
    Ref: S. 382. ABC 2081


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    Celtic potin, Leuci tribe
    80-20 BC
    AE18, 3.4 gm
    Obv: bald warrior head left
    Rev: boar standing left, three half-circles below
    Ref: BN 9100-9104
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Cool Celtic example, Mikey-Z ...

    I have a couple of fairly cool Celtic examples as well ... wanna see 'em?


    Celtic Gaul, Senones AE Cast Potin

    Date: 100-50 BC
    Diameter: 17.8 mm
    Weight: 4.0 grams
    Obverse: Head right
    Reverse: Stylized horse with pellets around


    Celtic Gaul AE Potin.JPG


    FRANCE. CELTIC TRIBES OF GAUL.
    CORIOSOLITE CLASS IIB BILLON STATER

    Date: 80-50 BC
    Diameter: 20.69 mm

    Weight: 6.13 grams
    Obverse: Stylized Celtic head right
    Reverse: Celticized rider on horseback right, below, boar right

    Reference: De LaTour 6598

    Celtic Tribes of Gaul Coriosolite.jpg

     
  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Wonderful posts @TIF

    I LOVE that 'dancing mannikin' type!!

    But now you have me hankerin' for those as well LOL

    Terrific examples @stevex6 Now you have me wanting more too:hungry:

    Yeah, my sentiments precisely. But then it would have been more of a $50-$75.00 coin instead of the cheaper $30-$40.00 range I appraised my Tet within. Somehow, I suspect I'll add a few more as the months roll by:D
     
  8. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    I don't have an Tetradrachms at the moment, I think yours is fine though.
    Primarily mine are from Spain. Here are a couple.
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    Celtiberian
    Bascunes
    After 150 BC
    AR Denarius
    Obvs: [​IMG]И[​IMG]X, Bearded male right.
    Revs: IM [​IMG]И[​IMG][​IMG], Rider on horse holding sword.
    17x18mm, 4.02g
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    Osca
    After 204 BC
    AR Drachm
    Obvs: Male head right, Ж٣ behind.
    Revs: Horseman holding spear right, ЖΓMA٢ below.
    17mm, 3.63g
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice! I love the Celtic style.
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    EASTERN CELTS, DACHREITER TYPE
    AR Drachm
    OBVERSE: Celticized head of Zeus right
    REVERSE: Celticized horseman riding left; wheel of four spokes above
    Struck by the Skordoski in Syrmia, 2d Century BC
    1.87g, 14mm
    OTA 188/2-3
     
  10. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice coin for that price...dang...good score MZ!

    my only celtic silver is an alexander drachm imitative coin ....

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  11. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I have a few... I think the Celts were an interesting group of peoples...

    Celtic Imitation Philip II drachm Kugelwangel type- Agora auction obv-rev.JPG
    Celtic Imitation Philip II drachm Kugelwangel type- Agora auction

    Celtic Imitation Philip II drachm - pecunum auction obv-rev.JPG
    Celtic Imitation Philip II drachm - pecunum auction

    Celtic AE Ring 800-500 BC O-R.jpg
    Celtic AE Ring 800-500 BCE

    Celtic Britain Inceni Boudicca 61 CE 1-03g Celt Hd r Celtic horse galloping Scarce O-R.JPG
    Celtic Britain Inceni Boudicca 61 CE 1-03g Celt Hd r Celtic horse galloping Scarce

    Iberia Secaisa Segeda AE 25 2nd-1st C BC Male Hd Dolphin Horseman Galloping O-R.jpg
    Iberia Secaisa Segeda AE 25 2nd-1st C BC Male Hd Dolphin Horseman Galloping

    Iberia Castulo Late 2nd C BC AE As 25mm Bust Nose Hand Sphinx O-R.jpg
    Iberia Castulo Late 2nd C BC AE As 25mm Bust Nose Hand Sphinx

    Carthage Iberia 218-208 BC AE 13 1-4 Calco Barcid Military Mint 2nd Punic Tanit Helmet O-R.jpg
    Carthage Iberia 218-208 BC AE 13 1-4 Calco Barcid Military Mint 2nd Punic Tanit Helmet

    Iberia - Castulo AE14 Quarter Unit Bust - BOAR w-star Obv-Rev 2nd C BCE.JPG
    Iberia - Castulo AE14 Quarter Unit Bust - BOAR w-star Obv-Rev 2nd C BCE
     
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  12. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I want to one day add a Picaso style Celtic that complements the original coin.
     
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  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Terrific posts guys!!!

    Hmmm, It seems Brian has cornered the market a bit LOL

    I see he has a few of the same style as my OP. Is it just me or does 'Kugelwangel' just sound funny???
     
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  14. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    This is a favorite subject for me. I have some forty Celts, but they are (for me) not easy to picture, because of the high profile. This is my latest, a bronze tetradrachm from Pannonia (Hungary). Kapostal type, 21 mm, 8.95 gr.

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  15. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    By the way, Kugelwange is German for 'ball cheek'. Many of the technical terms for Celtic coins are in German, a result of the thorough studies in German that were devoted to them.
     
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