!894-O Morgan that needs a bath.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by New Windsor Bill, May 8, 2016.

  1. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    Hello everybody. Today I was looking through my coins and I noticed some white spotting on one of my Morgans and I was wondering if it would be a good idea to give some of them DSCN0098.JPG DSCN0099.JPG an ultrasonic bath with mild detergents. I am new to collecting and any advice would be greatly appreciated. I am including some pictures of the coin thank you.
     
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  3. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Leave it alone. Those white patches are wear marks. It's perfect just the way it is ;)
     
  4. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    If you don't have any experience restoring coins I suggest not doing anything.
     
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  5. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    When silver wears down, the wear spots are white, but not lustery.

    There is no way you will remove the white stuff. It's there because of wear.
     
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  6. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Yes - anything you do to it will probably lessen it's value - nice circulated coin - leave it as such!!
     
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  7. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    I don't see anything that a cleaning will improve. Possibly lightly cleaned at some point, then spent time in a kraft envelope. ( Folks, feel free to disagree with me on that :)). It looks quite nice now.
     
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  8. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Can't add much except using detergent on a Morgan isn't a great idea. I would try the ultrasonic bath with distilled water then acetone if u feel the need to get froggy with a Morgan
     
  9. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    It's a perfectly normal Morgan, and a better date at that. Leave it alone.
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    White balance is our friend..........

    Other than that, nice photos. :)
     
  11. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    I hate Morgans that appear like copper........ devil.gif

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  12. Bman33

    Bman33 Well-Known Member

    Looks great, did you change the filter?
     
  13. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The White Balance is off on the original images; green18 corrected that in postprocessing by eliminating all color. In the real world, I suspect it looks more like this:

    DSCN0098a.JPG

    ....which is how it ought to look at that level of wear.
     
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  14. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    I will not do any cleaning. At the same time, I am trying to take better pictures and after reading the featured post the other day I have learned a lot. The actual coin looks more like What Green did to it. My light is not bright enough. I am using a 10W LED @750 Lumens.
     
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  15. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    Thank you, after reading super Dave's posting and then yours today, I took my cheapest camera which I believe is a 14MP Nikon point and shoot with a light I purchased which I see now is not bright enough, I gave it a shot.
     
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  16. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    That's more light than I use in my photography; my Jansjos are 2w each for a combined total of 140 lumens. Adjustability is key for making that work, though - for a coin like this using those lights, I'd be exposing down around 1/15 @ ISO200, maybe 400. Let me know the model of your Nikon; I'll be happy to offer camera-specific hints. It shoots nice sharp shots, for sure. Once we get White Balance figured and lighting tweaked there's no reason you can't offer gradable images here.
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Heck, when shooting coins I like my ISO set at 64.......
     
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  18. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I'm throwing so little light at the matter that ISO100 is usually the best I can do unless I do a bathroom trip while the exposure is happening, just to while away the time. :)

    My XS - even as old as it is - does not introduce visible noise in a coin shot below ISO800.
     
  19. New Windsor Bill

    New Windsor Bill Well-Known Member

    Dave thank you for your reponse. I Learned a lot from your featured posting. Thank you for that. My camera is a Nikon S6100 wh
    I set the camera to macro automatic and adjusted the zoom.
     
  20. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    That's what I love about my D-810 (Nikon).......I can go low end or I can go high end........with a minimum of 'noise'.
     
  21. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    The bad news is, your camera offers very little manual adjustment. The good news is, it sure doesn't look like it really needs it. :)

    You do have the ability to create a Custom White Balance setting; this is the next thing to look at in your manual. What appears here is about as good as can be done with a single light source; have you the ability to get it any more vertical above the coin? The preferable "look" is with the light at 10:00 or 2:00-ish with the coin straight up as you'd inspect it, but if it'll help with lighting there's nothing stopping you from rotating coin or camera, and then correcting the rotation in postprocessing.

    It's always preferable to crop anything but coin out of the final image, and present the coin unrotated, as you'd like to look at it in-hand.

    That's Nikon's finest offering for coin photography - EFSC, no antialiasing filter and tetherable. Terrific camera. If/when I can afford a fullframe, that will likely be the camera because away from the bellows, outdoors, I actually prefer Nikon.
     
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