78-CC Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by oldwormwood, Jun 18, 2012.

  1. oldwormwood

    oldwormwood Collector

    Hi CT.

    I am finally getting around to posting some pictures of two coins I got at the NH Coin Expo back in April.

    I'll post the other coin (an 1908-S Indian Cent) later.

    The photos were taken with the iPad camera, so sorry if they are not the best.

    As of April, I did not own a CC Morgan, and I thought this one looked pretty nice:

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    The dealer had it graded as AU53. What do you think?
     
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  3. HULLCOINS

    HULLCOINS Junior Member

    AU is correct. My only concern is have you looked at it with a loupe to make sure it isn't cleaned?
     
  4. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Much wear can be seen.

    AU is not out of line for this one.
     
  5. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    It is somewhere in the range of AU 50 to AU53. There is a fair degree of wear on the obverse--usual places (hair, hair curls, cap, etc). Feathers are worn on the reverse. Nice coin, but lacking in luster--I agree that it has been dipped. Probably was a dirty looking coin, and had a good bath a while ago. Looks nice now as a circulated coin.
     
  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    AU55-MS-60 maybe 62?? If grader are in go mood.
    But still a Very nice 1878-CC for sure!!!
    :kewl:
     
  7. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Don't see it a MS, Jello. Just too much wear--not your typical slider. Those are usually dripping with luster, and this one isn't. I think AU is where it stays. :) :)
     
  8. oldwormwood

    oldwormwood Collector

    Yes, I examined it with a 10X loupe -- no telltale abrasive hairlines. At the same time, I'm not sure if the surface is original. So, it might have been dipped.
     
  9. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    If I remember correctly, the nose die chip indicates a VAM 2a (but please do not quote me on this). The coin does have hairlines and appears to have been at least wiped. As for dipping, why some people make such an issue out of it, I do not know. While over and/or improper dipping can be an issue, thousands upon thousands upon thousands of coins have been dipped yet are still market acceptable - many residing in top TPG holders. If submitted, I'd have to say chances are good that it would come back AU details.
     
  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Books, I agree with you completely. It could very well come back from one of the reputable TPGs as a "details" coin. I saw the wiping of which you speak, and noted some scratches on the face of Lady Liberty that indicate a pretty vigorous cleaning, probably years ago. Yes, many coins were dipped and reside in TPG holders, but as you indicated, there is a strong possibility that this coin was PHYSICALLY cleaned, as well as chemically. So, I could definitely agree with an "AU details" verdict, based on the scratches, and a few whirls on the reverse--possibly indicating a polishing with a brush.

    You are correct--it looks like a VAM 2a, with nose chip, and full lips.
     
  11. VNeal

    VNeal Member

    AU55 cleaned
     
  12. oldwormwood

    oldwormwood Collector

    Thanks to everyone for your opinions on this Morgan. I thought that AU was a fair grade for the coin, and I agree with the VAM 2a designation. I thought what I saw under the loupe were circulation marks, but I could certainly be mistaken. Time to give it a closer look.
     
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