$50 Pan-Pac bought raw at FUN

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  1. Owle

    Owle Junior Member



    Question, why would someone sell this raw?

    Zieman's daughter bought this apparently.

    No one sells after the first offer usually when dealing with rare coins.
     
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  3. Steven Shaw

    Steven Shaw Well-Known Member

    Looks like it was sold in 1972.
     
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  4. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    It was originally purchased then, hence the documentation of the 1972 transaction. Bought raw in 2023 at the FUN show.
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Didn't tell ya (us) what he paid for it raw. He immediately has the coin slabbed to maximize (no green bean?) profits.

    I don't know who sold it but old 'money' pockets has probably hit a home run.........too rich for me.
     
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  6. Evan Saltis

    Evan Saltis OWNER - EBS Numis LLC

    Ah yes, I saw images of this exact item from friends of mine. It really was cool, with the receipt and all.
     
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  7. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    "Highest prices paid" lol. "You need cash?" no problem! "How much would you want for that?" Buy for $50-$60K. Get slabbed, maybe cac'd too. Sell for $120K!
     
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  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Maybe all they wanted was $50 or $60 thousand. As Bilbo Baggins once said, 'It's all that I need'.

    Green eyed greedy monster? I don't know.
     
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  9. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    Guy bought it in 1972 before slabs existed. Heirs are liquidating his collection 50 years later.

    A bit inconsiderate posting the name and location of the 1972 buyer and seller, although google shows they're both dead.
     
  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I look at it as what a nice rescue. And I am sure a good profit for the seller, when it's time.
     
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  11. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    Who? Someone raising $$$s to pay estate taxes or debts?!
     
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  12. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    Only a very foolish heir sells a coin like that without asking around with some of the top premium buyers. Even Heritage has cash behind their table, but of course they are going to play by all applicable rules.

    Would an inherited coin like that even be subject to state taxes in Florida?
     
  13. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    Florida doesn’t have an inheritance tax but the federal government does.
    I was just tossing something, along with debt, out there.
    I’ve seen oil interests and homes at fire sale prices to raise cash immediately to save other property/small business.
    We’ll never know what motivates some sellers.
     
  14. imrich

    imrich Supporter! Supporter

    https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=florida+sales+tax+rate
     
  15. LakeEffect

    LakeEffect Average Circulated

    I don't know. If you've got nothing invested in an object and you can flip it quickly and easily for a large sum of money, why not? I wouldn't call it foolish. Many folks don't have the time, interest, or energy to extract every last dollar out of an inheritance. Whether it's coins, art, classic cars, or whatever. My 2¢.
     
  16. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    And yet everyone I know fights tooth and nail to make every $100, so why would a seller leave tens of thousands in potential money on the table, throwing money away?
     
  17. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    Not unless your estate is more than $12.9 million (in 2023).
     
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  18. IrishLuck

    IrishLuck Well-Known Member

    Yes. I’m working on a taxable estate now (2022 death and $12.06 million). And I’m a nobody with only a few clients.
    No high dollar coinage involved though.
     
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