I'm not sure about these. They all have the same basic layout, and I suspect that they're from the Ottoman empire and just predate the books I have at hand. I tentatively labeled them as 5 Kurush until I noticed that they have a wreath border and the 5 Kurush have interlocking crescents instead: http://coinquest.com/cgi-bin/cq/coins?main_coin=10336 The 1st coin is slightly larger than the others (23mm vs 21mm): www.flickr.com/photos/georgemo/8543150176 www.flickr.com/photos/georgemo/8543149708 Here are closeups of the Toughra, which is apparently handy for identifying these. Arabic coins aren't my specialty, but I'm trying to learn as I go: www.flickr.com/photos/georgemo/8543150532/ www.flickr.com/photos/georgemo/8542051519/
Coin 3: http://www.flickr.com/photos/georgemo/8543148494 http://www.flickr.com/photos/georgemo/8543148148
found it! found in my 2009 Krause 1901-2000 KM#299 denomination: Qirsh metal: copper nickel 4 years listed: 1901 VF-$12.00 XF-$32.00 1903 VF-$5.00 XF-$15.00 1904 VF-$14.00 XF-$35.00 1907 VF-$8.00 XF-$21.00 just letting you know that the first pic is upside down. not being mean... just letting you know is all
found it in my 2009 Krause 1901-2000 KM#304 denomination: 5/10 Qirsh metal: copper-nickel 1910H- F-$2.50 VF-$12.00 1911- F-$5.00 VF-$22.00 1911H- F-$1.00 VF-$5.00 1913H- F-$1.00 VF-$5.00
gotta go to work now. I will try identifying the 3rd coin when I get home from work if someone has not already found it for you.
a quick observation is that coin #2 looks like the same as coin#3 are they the same size ? coin#2 obverse is worn much more heavily.
Yes. I think 2 & 3 may be the same coin. Not sure on dates though. Where are they found on these? There's an ascension date that's constant on all coins of a Krause type, but where is the year marked and how?
Not really my speciality - but I can tell you how to date. If you look at the OP first picture, and turn it the other way up, the accession date is now at the bottom, reading 1293. This tells you that it is Abdul Hamid II who started from 1876 in Christian dates, through to 1909. Now at the top of the coin is the Arabic numbers 30, which tells you the year within his reign - so approx 1906. (Dates are approx because the Islamic year does not correspond exactly to the Christian year. In fact year 30 for Abdul Hamid correponds to 1904 according to Krause.) This in my Krause gives a valuation in VF of USD 14 - but I would have to say I find very few buyers for these, and with no silver content, and only really F rather than VF by non-American standards, I would expect to get no more than 1 or 2 GBP for it.
I wasn't thinking of Egypt (knew there was something I was missing)! That said, I'm seeing it in my book at KM306 rather than KM299. Year 2 (1909+1=1910): 1,000,000 minted: $2/$5/$12/$35 3 (1911): 300,000: $20/$40/$75/$150 4 (1912): 500,000: $4/$8/$22/$65 6 (1914): 2,500,000: $2/$4/$8/$28 So, this is year 3? (Arabic #3 at 12:00 on the reverse, if flipped). Odd that it has medallic orientation (sorry about the upside down pictures).
So, the other 2 coins (#2 & #3) appear to be 5/10 Qirsh coins (Egypt KM304: AH1328-1332: ~1911-1914). I'm not having any luck finding a mintage date though... Any ideas?
And as a side note, the "5" mark makes ID'ing this denomination really confusing. 5/10 instead of 1/2? Weird.
Well I don't think the first coin is KM 306 - if it were the accession date would read 1327, but I am pretty sure it reads 1293 - which is KM 299. The Regnal year is 30 - Arabic 3 followed by a dot for zero. (In my Krause the date decoder is on page 16.) So I stick by Abdul Hamid II, KM 299 date 1904. As to the smaller 5/10 Qirsh the detail is too obscured for me to be sure! I can't remember where the regnal year should be, and without one in hand I can't work it out. They could also be KM 291 - which is a very similar design, just with the earlier accession date.
