2xDraped Bust Dollars - attribute THIS !

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by 900fine, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Hey guys ! It's been way too long since we've had a fabulous episode of America's favorite home fun game "Attribute THIS !"

    A special spin this time - rather than simply throw down a coin and ask for attribution, this time I have TWO coins. I'll post a composite pic of both obverses so that we can compare 'em, and another composite for the reverses.

    These are draped bust dollars. Like many early US coins, it's easier to start on the reverse.

    Here are some pick-up points :

    OBVERSE :
    • Location of stars relative to each other
    • Location of stars relative to portrait
    • Location of stars relative to legend LIBERTY
    • numerals in the date - size of each, and location and orientation relative to each other and the portrait
    • letters in the legend - size of each, and location and orientation relative to each other and the portrait. In particular, look for rotation, which will make the feet higher or lower to the adjacent letter
    • repunched or recut letters or numerals
    • defects in the letters or numerals - missing feet or serifs
    • die state issues - die cracks, warps, or chips
    REVERSE :
    • Location of stars relative to each other
    • Location of stars relative to eagle's beak
    • Location of stars relative to legend LIBERTY
    • repunched or recut letters
    • letters in the legend - size of each, and location and orientation relative to each other and the portrait. In particular, look for rotation, which will make the feet higher or lower to the adjacent letter. Also, look for the first "A" in AMERICA and its relation to the eagle's wing
    • Clouds between stars position relative to stars and letter
    • defects in the letters - missing feet or serifs
    • Number and location of berries on the olive branch, and the nature of the stems
    • the letter "I" in AMERICA and it's relationship to the closest leaf in the olive branch
    • die state issues - die cracks, warps, or chips
    Given the nature of this post, let's talk about the die IDs (1-A, 3-B, etc) and their various marriage partners in addition to the typical attribution.

    Happy hunting !
     

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  3. CBJesse

    CBJesse Capped Bust Fanactic

    I really wish it wasn't dollars, they're the only ones I don't have the books for. :mad: I'll play next time.
     
  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I only have the half Dollar book , but I'll keep reading to learn more about dollars . BTW those are 2 sweet Draped Bust Dollars .
     
  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    Why do we insist on posting blasted thumbnails when Peter offers the opportunity to post large pics? Take advantage people. Especially you Rick.......
     
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  6. x115

    x115 Collector

    did quick research and I think the second coin is a BB-187 ?
    obverse with curved hairline die crack up through right side of second 0 in date.
    reverse roughness between E and S of STATES

    Im still a rookie so I could be wrong.

    I will look up first coin later.
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2013
  7. x115

    x115 Collector

    full images 1.jpg 2.jpg
     
  8. Marshall

    Marshall Junior Member

    BB-190 on the left and BB-187 on the right.

    The reverses of BB-189 and BB-190 are so close I had to look at the tail feather location to make a decision. Most reverses could be eliminated with the left base of the T entirely over the cloud and not extending to or past the space left of the cloud. The obverse has weak or poorly struck hair above E confirming the BB-190.

    The BB-187 has rust spots at the second S of the reverse and a minute crack from the rim through the second 0 of the date.

    ps This is not my specialty so I could be wrong. I'm using the Heritage sight for my reference.
     
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