2021-P Quarter struck through debris

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Neal, Nov 16, 2021.

  1. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I found this in an uncirculated bank roll. It appears to have been struck through debris on the reverse under the extended arm. Am I right that this is struck through debris? I'm pretty sure it is not post strike damage. There is also a slight anomaly in front of the face that resembles a clash mark, but there seems to be nothing on the obverse that matches it. (It is weak and doesn't show on the first picture.)
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  3. potty dollar 1878

    potty dollar 1878 Well-Known Member

    Looks like damage to me,still a quarter.
     
  4. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the quick reply.

    Yes, in the pictures it could be seen that way. But in hand it differs from damage that I'm familiar with in several ways. First, it was from an unopened uncirculated bank roll. There are few ways I can imagine that would put that mark on it from the mint to the bank. Second, it is in a tight place in the field. It would be unlikely to receive that damage to the field without resulting in damage to the devices all around it, although the top of the spyglass is missing in the depression. Third, there is no raised metal around it as would be likely if it had been hit hard enough to make that deep a depression. Fourth, which my poor pictures don't show, the surface of the entire indentation matches the surface of the rest of the field and devices without the usual "shiny" look of scratched or pushed away metal. Fifth, and another thing the pictures don't show, is the indentation continues as a series of very fine lines in the field, going "behind" the shoreline and above the people in back of the canoe without scratching or changing those devices in any way. I wish I could photograph that, better but my poor camera (literally held together with a rubber band) just won't. This picture gives a little more detail. IMG_0853 highlighting area above canoe.jpg
     
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  5. happy_collector

    happy_collector Well-Known Member

    There is a known struck through error in the exact area. Your coin could belong to the same group. I am currently using my cell phone. Need a computer in order to see your photos more clearly.

    You can see the one I am talking about:
     
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  6. Mountain Man

    Mountain Man Well-Known Member

    Really difficult to see with these photo. If it is a small struck through, I'm not sure it would add much, if any, value to the coin.
     
  7. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    I don't rightly know if it's struck through, or feeder finger or combination, and a mint worker trying to clean it up afterwards in that area. this one isn't as bad as the one in the video, but worse than the one posted, yet it has the full spy glass, even though there a problem to the arm, coat front and hand.

    Honestly I have no idea whats going on with these. but I will say it's not a one off, there's a progression to whatever this issue was. that affected coins for at least a bit. Struck through debris, like really gritty gritty grease or something maybe?

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  8. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    It looks raised in your pics, so it can't be a strike through. More like Feeder finger damage or some other type of die damage, IMO.
     
  9. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    The lines radiating to the southeast, going under the landscape and over the heads of the people in the back of the canoe do appear, at least some, perhaps all of them, to be raised, so I assume something scraped the die. But the main area under the arm is deeply depressed. Something had to be added to the die. The existence of others, as pointed out in the above posts is very interesting to me and something I had not considered, at least for the depressed portion.
     
  10. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I never expected it to be worth much, just interesting. Considering it cost me 25 cents and I don't expect to sell it, worth is not an issue.
     
  11. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    Thanks to all for looking at my post. Thanks especially to @happy_collector and @John Burgess for the information that this is part of a group!
     
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  12. VistaCruiser69

    VistaCruiser69 Well-Known Member

    Do mint workers "clean up" individual coins? My guess is the most they do is pull a sample out every so often and if it's got issues they toss it in a reject bin and go through the process of addressing the issue with the machinery.
     
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  13. john65999

    john65999 Well-Known Member

    struck through (under arm) and yes, tis a clash on face, there are many many many on ebay from 4.00 upwards to 20.00...
     
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  14. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    Thanks. The clash appears to be common. I have since found another (without strike-through) just in change, and figured out it is from the neck under Washington's chin.
     
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