2018-P pictuerd rocks DDO-001

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Raizac, Aug 8, 2024.

  1. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    hello again, I just went through my shipment from Littleton Coin Company i paid 14.95 bucks to have the entire collection of the American National Park commemorative quarters. that's 14.00 in quarters. I also got the book to go with and shipping. don't think they made much off me. but going through the coins late last night I found this
    2018p O pictued rocks-ccfopt.jpg

    2018p R pictued rocks-ccfopt.jpg

    2018p O pictued rocks001.jpg
    The above photos were taken on pixel 8pro
    the photos below are from my microscope
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    2018p Pictuered Rocks-002.png
    so what do you all think nice find or not?
     
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  3. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    It looks like a winner, Congratulations!
     
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  4. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Fun find!
     
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  5. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    +1
     
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  6. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    All I see is reflection from the light source. Where do you see "doubling"?
     
  7. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    It is very prominent on "IN GOD WE TRUST". Look at the thickness of the letters, especially the "O" in "GOD".
     
  8. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    It looks to me like die deterioration if anything, and still appears to be well within tolerance, but I'm not a modern US variety collector. My opinion is that coins are just like any other mass-produced common metallic consumable, like nails, paper clips, or bobby pins or screw fasteners. QC is suspect on any of these items is sparse at best and no two may look exactly alike when put under a microscope. You can call or name it what you wish for your collection, but it's a minor anomaly when shown the pics.
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Nice one Raizac.
     
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  10. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    @Bill in Burl
    so the 2 main photos of O/R Obverse and Reverse will always show a little light reflection. this is why almost all of us who post close-ups with no light glare. I.E. the last 2 photos.
    So may ask you why you are commenting if you are not a U.S. variety collector? why are you here if you think coins are like "nails, paper, clips bobby pins, or screw fasteners"? This is a known variety DDO-001<--- by this designation that I used. there is also Wexler's website: https://doubleddie.com/ which has great material for understating what double dies are. this is also a great website to lookup it http://www.varietyvista.com/ and this one https://www.coppercoins.com/
     
  11. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    I have collected errors and varieties for 40 years and use Wexler all the time, usually having to provide a link to all his works when questions arise on the various coinsites. I just don't do modern US coinage. You asked an opinion and I gave you an answer. And modern IS just like any other stamped/manufactured metallic product. They punch them out by the millions and there is an allowed tolerance for any product made that way for consumer use and dies get tired. I worked over and in metal shops for 30 years, so metal work is not new to me. And, yes, to me stamping out coins is no different than paper clips or bobby pins here in the 21st century.... and usually with just as much quality control
     
  12. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    if you use Wexler's website. then how would you not know that this is listed on his website and Variety Vista as a WDDO-001/DDO-001? I also did not ask for anyone's opinion! I asked if this "was a nice find or not"
    So what you're saying in your opinion is that no one should bother with modern coins as they are just nails and paper clips!
    it's your loss in the Hobby that has plenty of Mint errors/varieties to this date. it's your choice not to collect them
     
  13. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    It’s the single-squeeze hubbing type, it’s just stretched out a little some from the squeeze into the die. They collect these.
     
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  14. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    If it is a "real" DDO, you should find it on NCG, or PCGS or other high level posting of value, but I wouldn't hold my breath as it is not a true Doubled Die coin by modern determination. IMO, Wexler and others put any variation on their list to
    gather in the "flock"....but that is my view. As Eddie said above, enjoy what you like.
     
  15. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    @desertgem Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news to you. They do list this type of double die all tho not this one in particular. But if you go and look up PCGShttps://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/2014-1c-shield-ddo-fs-101-rd/569387

    exact same type of double die. So now are you still going to call this not a real DDO?
    I have just proven that it is listed..
    as you just stated that if it was A REAL DDO IT WOULD BE LISTED ON THE 3PG'S
     
  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Collect all of them you wish. Some of those pages are quite old. If you find them on Coppercoins.com ( who has done a good job deleting old listings. ) I will have to accept it, but not the way it is now. It used to be in the range of 300.00, try it now. IMO, You did prove it was listed on the internet, old, search it for a recent sale. Yes, I do call it as not a real DDO.
     
  17. cwart

    cwart Senior Member Supporter

    The part of your statement I've bolded and underlined is 100% asking for people's opinions.

    I'm not an expert on this one, I am learning about errors and varieties slowly over time. I see signs in the last pic you posted that to me could go either way. Some letters in in God We Trust appear thicker, an indication of true doubling. Some of the letters also appear thinner, a sign of mechanical doubling. The N and first T in Trust could have splits where the seraphs would be on a different font, point in favor of true doubling. The last T in Trust appears to have some flat and shelf like doubling, point to MD. In the end I can truly say I don't have enough experience to say one way or the other. The real kicker here is that its not impossible for it to have BOTH true and mechanical doubling, that could be complicating the whole thing.
     
  18. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

  19. cwart

    cwart Senior Member Supporter

    @Raizac , can you provide a link to the page at coppercoins? I've tried finding it there but all I keep finding for 2018 coins are cents, no quarters..... The link you posted does the same.
     
  20. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    Well your right that link doesn't take you to the right page. I cloud only take a screenshot.i will find the right page when I get home Screenshot_20240811-194710.png
     
  21. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    Okay on copper coins left side click on by die variety search next page click " from " put in 2014 next down click on Philadelphia next down DDO and then submit search that should bring up the page I have screenshot of. I also have the 2014P -1d0-003 added to my collection dec 18 2019
     
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