Hey folks... I am new to this hobby. Learning a lot as I go, however, I am now realizing that there is more to this than I ever imagined, so I have a long way to go. With that said, I came across this penny while searching bank rolls and I don't think what I saw was filled die doubling because from what I've learned, filled die doubling has not been seen since the 90's. It doesn't look like mechanical doubling to me either, but like I said, I am a novice at this. Is this something that may be of interest to collectors, and if so, what do you think the value would be? I have more pictures of other areas of the coin that are the same way, including on the obverse side as well, if you need to see them. I also included 2 pictures of another coin, a 1983 P, which has a die crack stretching the entire width of the coin if you can tell me if it is of any value. Thanks a lot everyone. SORRY ABOUT THE PICTURE QUALITY. MY MICROSCOPE IS ONLY A CHEAP LITTLE 3 MEGAPIXEL. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THAT "E"? HERE IS THE 1983 P WITH THE DIE CRACK. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT COLLECTORS REALLY AREN'T INTERESTED IN THESE, BUT IT GOES ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE COIN. PRETTY COOL TO FIND ANYWAY. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT IT?
Welcome to Coin Talk. The die crack on the 1983 is relatively common and I don't know if it adds much value to the coin. As for the 2018 D, could you please post photos of the entire coin. Thank you.
And even more! Your picture.. DDD - Die Deterioration doubling Some information - http://www.error-ref.com/die-deterioration-doubling-incuse/ And https://www.doubleddie.com/144801.html Also.. I never heard of filled die doubling. Where did you get that information from? Welcome to CoinTalk
As stated, between the ridge ring and the "shifting" especially visible in the 8 in 2018 and the LI in Liberty, this is a good example of die deterioration doubling. The die is starting to distort and nearing the end of it's life. this is much more visible on copper plated zinc cents than it was on the 95% copper cents. the plating shifts a bit in the strike also I believe, just a little more extreme and the plating would be spitting around letters and devices. it's not a premium and worth face value, because it's thought of as not true "doubled die" and instead damage/deterioration. but it's good to keep and label as a comparison/reference piece until you know it whenever you see it. Since mid-1990s, when the mint switched to single squeeze hubbing, most of the dramatic doubled dies are gone and now it's just minor doubling usually around the center areas of the coin for instance like lincolns ear lobe. For instance the 1984 doubled ear lobe, The doubling is the result of an Off Set, limited pressure tilted hubbing that allowed the doubling to be more extensive, effecting not only the ear lobe, but also Lincoln's beard, bowtie, vest and other areas. comparing to the 1997 lincoln cent doubled ear lobe it has more extensive doubling in the location of the ear lobe but beyond the ear lobe, none of it is easy to see. Single squeeze hubbing drastically minimized the occurrence of dramatic doubled dies. It actually was intended to get rid of doubled dies entirely when they switched to it.
As referenced in an article on Heritage Auctions... Filled die or grease filled die errors occur when part of a coin’s design is obscured by grease or other foreign matter on the die’s surface. The rest of the coin strikes up, but a selected section does not. SOURCE: Filled Die Error Coins Value Guide – What’s Missing?
I would like to thank everyone for your help with this. As I said, I am a novice at this, as of just yet. I will, however, get there eventually with the help of people like everyone on this forum. I have found that, with this example and others recently, I need to get there pretty soon because I get so excited with expectations when I find something and then it turns out to be nothing. It's a real bummer! I can say that I get a lot of enjoyment out of the process of learning the art though. Thanks again and I imagine I will need you all again very soon. This was informative and helpful.
There are many types of doubling. DDD or die deterioration Doubling, MD or machine doubling, split plate doubling, etc. These are very common forms of doubling and your falls into this category. The die crack is also very common on coins, but they are nice to find. Welcome to CT.
@Jeff Callahan. If you want to learn about the different types of error coins this is an excellent site: http://www.error-ref.com/ For the different kinds of doubling: https://doubleddie.com/ and: http://www.varietyvista.com/ There are plenty of sites re every subject related to coins. Keep posting if you have any questions.
