2017-p Ozark river ways

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Raizac, Sep 27, 2019.

  1. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    hello again I found this nice RIAZD H just in front of the ponytail of Washington 2017-p_O Ozark's.jpg 2017-p_R Ozark's.jpg 2017-p_O Ozark's001.jpg at first I thought I had something but noticed other marking of the Revers of the coin just past the ponytail and before the "igwt" you can see other marking on Wash' neck just under his ear kinda looks like a box there are also marking's on his chin and mouth 2017-p_O Ozark's002.jpg 2017-p_O Ozark's003.jpg 2017-p_O Ozark's004.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Paredolia :depressed:

    IMHO
     
  4. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    die clash
     
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  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Die Clash of what? You need to proove it.
     
  6. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Looks like clashed dies to me.

    (don't know where that so-called 'H' comes from,
    but probably from the building on the reverse)
     
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  7. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    realy the revers of the coin
     
  8. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    @Fred Weinberg yes it's the bridge of the Reverse of the coin but look's like an H on the Obverse of the coin
     
  9. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    2017-p_O Ozark's002.jpg
    but all this is the railing for the reverse
     
  10. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I'm probably wrong but isn't a clashed Die issue only on the field and not on the design. Or can occur anywhere?
    I hope you understand my question.
     
  11. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    I am not sure I could answer! @Fred Weinberg am i right?
    but my understanding is they can be anywhere
     
  12. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Not sure if it's normal but I have found cents with the memorial on Lincoln's neck at the edges, but not across the entire bust.
     
  13. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    They're usually in the fields, right, but
    there are numerous examples of all
    denominations where they run across
    the design elements also.
     
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  14. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Thank you!
     
  15. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    Look at the windows. above a few of them is a smaller window....then look at the "H"....Im thinking its a window and you can actually see part of the window above it in washingtons hair. Fun, like wheres waldo.
     
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  16. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    I have a question. Would a clash like this be replicated in other coins or is this coin a unique one of a kind in existence?
     
  17. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    That depends on if the the die worker found the clash and then polish to die to erase the clash could be a dozen or more
     
  18. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Not likely to be just one. Remember, this is a Philly coin and they are known to use their dies to death. All depends on QC making timely inspections. These are high speed presses so there could be many more before this was discovered and the die sent back for re-tooling. Although this is a nice clash, unless it were a major "event" that shut down the press, it would have kept producing coins until this was found in a check.
     
  19. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    So I am trying to imagine a "die clash" in action. 2 dies smashing into each other with no planchet in between. The highest points on each die would connect right? In return, the next planchet would show the "damage" to the dies and most likely be on the lowest parts of the coin? My stupid mechanical brain is telling me if everything is "perfect" a clash will always be in the same spot on any given coin? So on the Raizacs coin, even if the damaged die was noticed and a new set used...if those dies came together they would damage each other at the same place as the last? But I know thats not true because there are clashes in different spots for the same coin. I know I am over thinking it and it probably doesnt matter. A clash is a clash is a clash.
     
  20. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    would be called a rotated die clash then ? If it clashes in another spot then the normal clash
     
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  21. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    ok, so the die can rotate
     
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