2009 "numismatic version" copper cents

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  1. coinbuff

    coinbuff Senior Member

    Hello to all,

    I got the impression from the US Mint website ("pressroom link") that the 2009 cents made with original copper/tin/zinc alloy will be included in the 2009 mint and proof sets.

    Quote from the press release concerning 2009 Lincoln cents:
    The United States Mint also will issue numismatic versions of the four redesigned pennies with exactly the same metallic content as the 1909 coin (95 percent copper, five percent tin and zinc). These coins will be minted in proof and uncirculated condition, and will be included in the United States Mint's annual product offerings.

    I understand "annual product offerings" to mean mint and proof sets.
    Am I correct in my understanding?

    I know sometime in Spring the mint will issue a limited mintage five coin Lincoln set which will include the dollar and the four copper cents. Whether or not the coppers will be included in the mint and proof sets will affect the number of these "limited mintage sets" I will attempt to purchase.
    The annual proof sets are on the Mint's product schedule for Spring release, the annual mint sets for Summer. The 5 coin Lincoln set is not shown on the product schedule, but AFAIK, it is fairly well known amongst collectors that they will be released "sometime in Spring".

    Any info will be appreciated! :thumb:
     
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  3. davidh

    davidh soloist gnomic

    I think you are correct in what you have stated. The only question is whether the circulation cents - zinc/copper - will be available in a packaged set. It doesn't appear that they will be, meaning that those will have to be obtained through circulation or from someone lucky enough to find bank rolls, which in itself isn't likely as the banks apparently aren't ordering them.
     
  4. detltu

    detltu Junior Member

    Will the Mint do another American Legacy proof this year with all of these included?
     
  5. coinbuff

    coinbuff Senior Member

    I heard that the mint has approached congress about possibly selling the regular circulation zincs in rolls directly from the mint. Just a rumor I've heard a couple of times. Don't know how credible it is, though.
    I think plenty will become available in the coming months. They're on eBay now selling for crazy high prices. We'll see more of them at banks and reasonably priced on eBay and such in a month or two.
    Between the high amounts of coin already circulating causing a slowdown in the dissemination into circulation and hype, some people are (as usual) paying crazy money to "get 'em while they can" - look what happened with WWJ Nickels! There will be plenty of bank rolls to be had, don't worry about that. ;)

    I hope we're right as to the coppers in the mint and proof sets.
    :eek:
     
  6. ice

    ice Just happy to be here

    I asked my bank about the rolls the bank manager said if I would order 4 boxes she would get them for me. I figure I'll keep some and get rid of the rest. Ice
     
  7. coinbuff

    coinbuff Senior Member

    oops, wrong thread. sorry :eek:
     
  8. coinbuff

    coinbuff Senior Member

    2009 clad proof set - 18 pc
    2009 silver proof set - 18 pc
    2009 mint unc set - 36 pc
    Note: 2010 clad proof set and silver proof set will have 14 pc each per set. and the 2010 mint unc set will have 28 pc.


    I copied this from the mintage figures thread. My best conclusion to these numbers, assuming that the mint will be issuing naional landmark quarters in 2010 as proposed, is that the uncirculated sets will include cents of both compositions, while the proof sets will only include one type.
    Ya think that they will only mint the proofs with the original copper alloy? This seems more appropriate than minting the proofs in only the copper plated zinc.:cool:
     
  9. ericl

    ericl Senior Member

    Well, they didn't do one LAST year, they forgot to do the eagle half dollar for some reason.
     
  10. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage


    That's a good queston on the 2009 Uncirculated mint set. Mint usually makes roughly about a million uncirculated mint sets a year. That would be cool if they had the 95 percent copper cent only available in the mint sets. That would make roughy a million each Philly and Denver 95 percent copper cents made for 2009 only available in mint sets. Guess that is a possibilty. That would make the 2009 mint sets very sought after.
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    They announced the composition of the the 2009 mint set a little while back.
    8 cents copper alloy 4 P 4 D
    2 five cent P & D
    2 dimes P & D
    12 territory quarters 6 P & 6 D
    2 halves P & D
    2 native american dollars P & D
    8 President dollars P & D for each of the four Presidents

    Total 36 coins but only one composition for the cent.

    The mint does not need permission from the Congress to sell the rolls. They have to have authorization to strike them, but the marketing of them is up to the mint unless the Congress specifically mandates a marketing program.
     
  12. coinbuff

    coinbuff Senior Member

    Total 36 coins but only one composition for the cent.

    Thanks Conder! I...uhhhh...forgot to consider P&D in the uncirc. sets. Duh.:eek: (I guess my mind was stuck in proof set mode when I posted previously.)

    Confirms that the copper alloy cents will be used in the annual sets, too.

    Thanks again. :high5:

    And ditto for setting me straight on the Mint's sale of rolls. ;)
     
  13. flyers10

    flyers10 Collector of US Coinage

    Thanks for confirming.
     
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