I'm still having some trouble identifying "Notches", especially on coins that display heavier wear (looks blurry under magnification). Could someone please post some pictures of notches with arrows pointed to where they are? Or edit my pictures and show me on this coin if it is doubled. Based on the examples on Wexler's (assuming that this coin is DD), they appear as very small "raised" pieces on the corners of the letters in LIBERTY. This is confusing me to no end... I'm not just asking "Is this coin doubled", I want to know what to look for in similar examples if it is and for the term "Notches" to be broken down and explained. Thanks in advance for any helpful pointers.
First, and since you mentioned Wexler (good job BTW), do you understand the difference between the modern "single squeeze" method of producing dies and the classic multiple impression hubbing process?
I don't think that I do, but I would appreciate any helpful advice that I can get from anyone who is more experienced and knowledgeable of the different types of doubled dies. I'm starting to get better at knowing what to look for, but there is still a LOT that I do not know and I haven't really had it broken down and explained. Sometimes it's difficult to look at a picture on Wexler's, compare it to what you've got, and come up with the conclusion "Okay, this is doubled". I need help with notches, close spread dies, and separation lines (assuming that these things aren't easily visible if you don't know what to look for).
I'm not talking about something like this that's completely obvious (looks like the mint worker got plastered before work).
It can be very confusing, even to this old timer. Notching now appears as a slash on lettering in numerals and many doubled die coins now appear as twisted. This is part of the single squeeze method. Spreads are or can be just as confusing. I don't have much in the way of advice except that time and experience will eventually come to you.
How about the classification in classes, for new and old hubbing ? This should be interesting .........................
I understand and is why I asked. Believe it or not there is method to my madness here. Day in and out you'll see folks here posting newer single squeeze coins fully expecting to see doubling produced by the earlier production method. My question was to hopefully help you avoid this. Somewhere on his site Mr. Wexler explains the two as well as the differences, at least if I recall correctly, so please take a look. I'll do the same once I've extra free time.
No there isn’t. Please stop it with this nonsense! The only difference is one letter. There’s no other term called “double die”, with some crazy other meaning, that would refer to something completely different when people forget the D at the end of the word. There’s no “big” difference between the two and both are understood to mean the same thing. This level of numismatic correction is, in my opinion, excessive/unnecessary.
Here is another excessive/unnecessary correction. Here is a photo taken from inside the Philadelphia Mint.
Come on, man... the guy was obviously joking around. Still, if we want to be technical about it, the coins themselves, long labeled not as "penny" but "cent", would certainly take precedence over a sign at the mint.
I love when people post on the forums, believing everything the mints tell them about single squeeze hubbing . Can you say class 4 doubling . I know the mints don't want to talk about it ..
You should of seen his face, when I gave in that ATB ( Michigan ) quarter . Must of study it for a half hour . Class #4 doubling, yes, from single squeeze hubbing ...
Pay close attention to this article and you will read why class 4 doubling is coming from single squeeze hubbing . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doubled_die#Classes_of_doubled_dies
Thank you, I will be sure to look for it. It feels like frustration is beginning to take over fun in a hobby that I'm supposed to be able to enjoy and I don't want to look like an idiot (asking repetitive questions/ posting too much) or to come off as annoying... For this to be something that I'm so enthused with, it feels like I'm never going to fully understand it.
Maybe it was a joke, but I see it all the time, as if people think this is a meaningful and necessary correction. I get being accurate, but some people take it too far and spoil threads demanding perfect grammar or terminology without actually helping with the OP’s question.
