2001 D Lincoln Question

Hi everyone, I have a question and cannot find to much about it online by searching.
On my 2001 D Lincoln Penny, there is a circular hole right in the center of it.
I know your probably gonna say that someone drilled the hole in it, (because I thought that for a long time until I took a closer look at it) but here's the thing I'm seeing.
There is no drill pattern inside the hole, and the copper metal around the hole is formed around the hole. If someone would have drilled a hole it would have just cut through the piller's but since the copper forms around it I would think that it must have been done were the coin was printed. So I would like to find out some info on this. Could this coin be a wrong planchet? here's a few pictures. Thanks again I do appreciate everyone's time. Kim

 

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Someone drilled a hole in the coin with a drill bit. Not an error

 

Hi Did you read what I had wrote??? how could the metal copper get molded around the hole then? I work with tools and this is not done with a drill bit. And if it was put there by someone how again can the copper mold around it because other wise if it were drilled through it would have cut the piller's instead of forming around it.. Thank you

 

Not enough pictures.

Looks like it was involved in a Trolling accident

Not a Mint Error

 

This is one of those crappy Zincoln cents. It has a very thin copper layer covering a zinc core. Whatever tool was used to drill/bore through the coin pushed some of the copper aside.

It is PMD, pure and simple! There is no way that this could have occurred at the Mint. You need to learn more about the minting process.

Chris

 

The bit was dull and chatter created what you are seeing.

 

Yes sorry about all the pics. I somehow hit the button twice. So you think that someone forged this coin, that it does not possibly even come from the mint? An if you do think that it did come from the mint, how could the copper mold around the hole like it did? Because there would be no way for it to do this after it left the mint I wouldn't think/ Sorry, but you never really answered my question, I cannot learn if I don't know. Thanks anyway. You are always really good about answering my questions right away and do appreciate that. Kim

 

Yes I that is exactly why I am asking, so You are saying then that if I were to go drill a hole through a coin that I also can get the copper to move around the hole just like this one then, Right? I am going to go right out and try this right now then. Ill get back with yeah on that. Thank you Chris, ill let yeah know

 

Ok so I went out and drilled several holes in a penny, and you can see the drill lines on the inside of the hole, and It never moved the copper at all. As a matter of fact it did just what I thought it would do, drill right through the metal taking it with it, not moving it. So what do you kind of tool do you think did this? I just really want to know how they got the copper to form around the hole is all because I guarantee you you cannot get metal to move just by cutting a hole. Cutting a hole Cuts the hole it doesn't move things. I also posted a picture of the other side of the coin after running a drill bit through, you can see it pushes a hole through and if I were to file this down you would be able to see that. Also you can see where the copper cracked as it pushed through and there again that would show.. I do alot of building I can tell you all about tools, just nothing about a coin.

 

dude, you are way over analyzing this, its PMD, a drilled hole, plain an simple, and you may never know exactly what of the many types of tools may have been used, and if you cant accept that, then go to the hardware store and buy every type of drill and dremel bit they have and start drilling zincolns and when your done, dull and/or overheat all the bits and start over, and even after all that, maybe you'll be lucky enough to drill a hole that might resemble the one in your coin, or you can take the easy route and take the experienced advice you were given and toss the coin in your junk box and move on...

 

have you ever tried a diamond tip drill bit

 

I applaud you for going out and trying to duplicate the possible outcome of this coin but the fact of the matter is it is a drilled hole through a coin. Read up on how coins are made and the possible error's if you want to search for error's. Here is a good link. http://www.error-ref.com/

 

You've closed your mind to all of the various ways the hole could have been made. Note that I said "drill/bore". It could have been anything! The zinc can deteriorate quickly.

Chris

 

I wouldn't use the word forged. Just simply that someone purposely damaged it.
Like the others have stated.. Not a Mint Error.

They also have special equipment that uses a special stream of high pressure water directed in a very fine stream to cut through almost anything. You can place any coin under that stream and it will also make a hole.

 

The fact that the pillars on each side of the hole are pushed outward shows that it was not minted like this. If the planchet had a hole and it was stamped the pillars would be straight. Quite possibly just a dull bit that did not cut cleanly.

 

Coins are struck with a press. Forging is different. That would be amazing if someone could forge a coin this well. Your coin is damaged it has been holed after it left the mint.

 

I'm not sure which of the thousands of ways to drill through a cent that this person used but it didn't happen inside the mint.

I don't call a coin an error unless I can describe where in the minting process it happened.

there is no where in the process of minting a cent that a hole can be drilled in it, hence, the coin was drilled outside the mint.

Occam's razor, again.

Or Sherlock Holmes if you like.

 

Do us all a favor and take up a different hobby before you drill a hole through a 1995W SAE to see if it is really silver on the inside.

Chris

 

The hole was most likely punched or drilled and the coin used as a washer or spacer. The pushing of the columns shows that the pin through the hole was a bit loose, pushing the edges of the hole out. This would both remove any evidence of the drill bit used to make the hole and roll the copper plating. Above all, as a 40+ year collector and die cutter/coin maker for almost 2 decades I can assure you the hole happened after the coin left the mint.

 

Actually, it's someone at the mint putting holes in cents (should I say pennies) just to drive Larry, Paddy & Chris crazy!!!