1996 DDO Cent

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  1. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    I think I may have found one this time. Mostly looking at the loop of the 6 in 1996, has that doubled look but not that seen on FS-101, which I was looking for.

    Regardless I still think I see a minor doubled die.

    What do you all think?
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  3. SorenCoins

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  4. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

  5. SorenCoins

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  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Look at the " B " in LIBERTY .

    Here's the cherrypickers .
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    Here's #2 .
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    Here's yours .
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    Look at the bottom hump of the " B " .
    The cherrypickers is thin .
    #2 is thick .

    Your looks like #2, to me ...
     
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  7. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    8972E23D-1836-49F5-8C6C-5D25912B990F.jpeg I must’ve forgotten to attach the photo of the days, my bad, sorry. I see what you’re saying about the B. I for sure dont think this one is Cherrypickers, dates just not strong enough, but Ill have to get closeups of the B to you guys. Ill also try to get pickups of possible die markers for #2.
     
  8. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    I know they’re not the best pictures, because the microscope inverts it, but I think it demonstrates the thickness well, looks to be the thicker variety, although I dont see that “notching” you picture shows. 2AF680D8-86B8-4BBB-81EE-77FC7AF66929.jpeg 9BB98A51-2200-4DDC-8DBD-499EAE21B6C4.jpeg
     
  9. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    So Wexler mentions 3 die markers in his listing for the second variety. I took picture of the close up areas and see all but maybe one (the die scratches above the T in CENT). I also took more photos of the date and of LIBERTY. I hope these can help determine the match for this coin!

    Small die gouge by G in GOD:
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    Small die gouges beneath second 9 in date:
    E08B6B42-CE11-4E12-B99B-A75DD561F22E.jpeg Entire date region:
    A62383DF-A84B-4995-84A3-C9822314C60A.jpeg FD7C3CC8-B12C-4D9B-BECF-FCE957DC8476.jpeg
    LIBERTY:
    EDCAB2CF-42A4-42F1-AAD6-51132297FF45.jpeg 432B5EDD-8005-4E1B-AD5A-F12509D4ADC3.jpeg
    Small NNE to SSW die scratches above T in CENT:
    4FBC712B-AC73-4EF9-A7E3-F1358E506BAE.jpeg 31187A92-470F-4AEB-B877-B1273D4C216C.jpeg

    Opinions?

    -Soren
     
  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Still #2 .
    I can see from the new images, the vest is doubled .

    Study the variety I posted ........
     
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  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    This images seals the deal for me on #2 .
    Coppercoin #2 is the same as coneca #2 .

    One of the markers is " BIE " error and here it is .
    upload_2019-6-15_20-38-50.jpeg

    Coppercoins .
    upload_2019-6-15_20-39-17.jpeg
     
  12. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

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  13. SorenCoins

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  14. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    So, for when I label the flip, what is most preferred? This coin cross references as Wexler WDDO-003 "Best Of" Variety, CONECA 2-O-V (DDO-002), CopperCoins 1996P-1DO-002, and Crawford CDDO-002. Im thinking probably Wexler or CONECA.

    On another note, I also read in the Cherrypicker's Guide listing for FS-101 a note that intrigues me:

    "This is the last date possible for doubled dies produced by the multiple hubbing process, with the exception of the 1999 Susan B. Anthony dollar."

    So, it is clear here that FS-101 must be caused by the multiple hubbing process, but was DDO #2 produced by that same process? Or by some other means? Going off (my uneducated eye's) looks, it appears that it is, but I could be wrong.
     
  15. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Correct on multiple hubbing process .
     
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  16. Walter Marx

    Walter Marx Active Member

    Your coin is not a BIE error, where do see the doubling in question?
     
  17. Walter Marx

    Walter Marx Active Member

    I see no raised Mark's indicating die gouges, could you give a direction as where to look or point them out with an arrow.
     
  18. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    The doubling is most visible on the date. The BIE is there but is no means large or really visible in the photos.
    The die gouges are very small as well, but theyre there.
     
  19. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    It's BIE " Like " .
    That's what the marker says ......
     
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  20. SorenCoins

    SorenCoins Well-Known Member

    Right. Doesn't look like a BIE but the die chip is in the right location.
     
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  21. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    This would be because of the die state. Bigger chip later die state.
    I would like to inform everyone there is a firm of split plate doubling that mimics this class of doubling..

    One thing I know is the date looks like a twisted tootsie roll. That's my usual go to when identifying this variety. The variety wears fast probably not found below AU condition.
     
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