1995p Jefferson nickel

this poor guy has had a rough life but I have a question about it. While I was checking the crack in the nickel, I noticed the font on the back is different than the front, more fancy. Is it suppose to be like that?

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Twiggs as a Jefferson nickel collector..I can honestly say this poor guy was "rode hard and put away wet!" That to me is so hard to understand at times how a coin only a few years old can look so SAD/BAD and others over 100's of years old look like they just were coined! But to me that another reason I have always enjoyed coin collecting each coin has a story/history. I think it would be wild to be able to track a coin if you could. Like the difference between a Morgan silver dollar and a Peace silver dollar. Back in the day a Morgan was given as a gift "for a birthday etc. they were put away and taken care of ....as to the Peace dollar were more used as what they were minted for Money! Plus the difference the strikes between the two ...with a Pece dollar being minted with a softer strike . When ever I get a new coin like a silver dollar or lets say a 8 reale I often wonder where it's been in its life time. One of my favorite coins in my collection is a worned 1812 bust half dollar. It came from my father who worked in the Federal Reserve Bank in Balto. Md. What makes this coin so speical to me is this...the date 1812 was the same year Francis Scott Key wrote our national athem...here in Baltimore! everytime I look at this coin I wonder who's pocket it was in before my dad got it.

 

ok, so the old boy should be put out his misery but first I want to know....is the back font suppose to be like that? kinda has an angel wing thing happening

lol

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Twiggs what you are seeing at least what my old tired eyes are seeing it that the font has been filed or scratched. no to answer your question . But the damaged done to this coin is post mint not an error or mis-strike. Like if you put this coin on a side walk and put your foot on it and just draged it along.If that makes sense to you. Is Buddy still ashamed???

 

uh...but all the letters on the reverse are different

look at the word 'states'

 

Twiggs it's from the damage done to the coin. Not a different font used for minting. I can see what your saying but trust me it's from damage...not an mint error.

 

The lettering is all normal, just beat up. There are major effects of this coin having been struck by worn dies which will effect the lettering to a degree.

The strike with worn dies plus all the damage, equals what you see but it is all normal.

Thanks,
Bill

 

See Bill thats what I believe also....but the word states does have rounded tops...almost like twiggs said a different Font lettering. This coin has been put though the mill......and maybe it was like you said from worn dies breaking down and a bad strike to begin with. Sad it's been scratched so bad would be a nice coin showing a die break down. Paddy

 

Hey Twiggs here is a picture of a 1995 P Jefferson Nickel out of my pocket. Your is not a forgery...no one counterfeits nickels unless the nickel is a 1913 V nickel or a 1937-D 3 legger buffalo! Have a look at the nickel I posted and you'll see it's a die break down or maybe a a broadstrike I'll post one of those next so you can see the difference. Paddy

 

Twiggs have a look at the lettering on this broadstrike Jefferson nickel...see how distorted it is?

 

Hey..it looks like that. What about the S instead of the N?

 

Twiggs you are right....it does look like an S / an N I don't know nice find I never seen one before. I have a 1939 double DDR but never seen a error like this one . Another thing I did notice was the steps this looks to have been a well struck nickel. Beats me......but hey I'll give ya a nickel for it!

 

There are no dies for a reverse of a Jefferson nickel that ever had the word MOSTICELLO on it.

The coin is victimized by damage and the movement of metal is creating things that look like something but they are not what they appear to be. All the lettering is broader, rounder, smushed, damaged, stapled, spindled and mutilated (old joke) giving the appearance of things that just can't happen. The coin is just beat to death.

Thanks,
Bill

 

RIP mosteillo :bow: Thanks Bill

 

After examining the coin I thin that this coin is victim of many die clashes. If you look at the marks in the middle of Monticello, you see two indented lines at about a 45 degree angle to the rounded top. the two angles look like and measure out to be the points below the top.(the two sopts on either side of the top that are horizontal. They match up at the angle the other marks do to a rotation to the left at about 45 degrees. I think it was hit several times after the main depression. Maybe it was between die changes.

 

How can N be changed to S?

 

ok twiggs, im a dumb dumb, can you tell me step by step how you went to photo bucket and got the large pictures to come in? when i do it they all stay small. I must be doing something wrong thanks for your help BILL

 

If no one else mentioned it, This is pure guesswork and there really is no evidence on the coin to support it. A die clash is when two dies come together without a planchet between them. Nothing on this coin looks like that.

Why is a diagnosis of damage so hard for some people to accept?

Thanks,
Bill

 

Twiggs,

You can take any letter on a coin and if it is damaged with metal moved, any letter can look alike any other letter.

Do a search on Hobo Nickels. They are pieces of artwork done where they start out as ordinary buffalo nickels. You would be amazed at how they are altered.

They are planned out so the alterations are well executed. The point though is that the metal can be moved whether on purpose or by damage. When the metal is moved, our eyes are trained to see what we want to see. If the damage makes an N look like an S, than that is what we see.

The fact is that the minting process has no part where such a thing could happen.

Understanding the minting process is vital and many people who are new to the hobby, bypass that part of numismatics entirely.

What is on that coin is unplanned damage. Also, there is 0% ways for it to have happened at the Mint.

Thanks,
Bill

 

I also found this as an answer to why the lettering looks different....
ll-l-4 inside abraded die doubling (l W)
inside abraded die doublingis defined as : a die which has hada design element enlarged by the use of anabrassive on the sidewalls of the designcavity, showing on the struck coinas anenlarged, irregular outline of the element overlapping the original design element. coins attributed in this manner are due to die deterioration of die fatigue. Twiggs this can be explained in detail in this text book on errors Price Guide To Mint Errors the picture shown showes the same type lettering as your nickel does one the top of the letters. rarity level 1-3 value up to a $1 over face value. But still a neet error to hold on to. Regards Paddy