A new page has been added to my site. This new page will be dedicated to the 1995 Fort Worth 295 error (or is it a variety?). I added 10 notes to this page. Something i recently found out while building the page and assembling the data.... much like Web Notes, 295 error notes is a very expansive collection. Where a complete web note collection is only about 240 notes (ok so only is not a good term there lol) a complete 295 error collection would consist of around 400 notes!!!! A very god website on the 1995 Fort Worth error is found here [/url. I tried to email the webmaster to see if he is still updating the numbers - the 'last updated' date was back in 2005. So far, i have not heard back from him. So its is more then likely the numbers posted on that page or obsolete/outdated! 1995 Fort Worth 295 errors - Added 10 notes to my budding collection FRN's District Set - Added a 2003 non-star set, and a 2001 star set. Friedberg #'s 1927, 1928, and 1929 Thanks for looking Clembo .. not to call you out but if you know of a better site that has an updated list of known notes, please let me know and i will update my link to point to that :thumb: thanks
Daggarjon, I have yet to find a 295 error note in circulation and you have 10 listed in your web page. WOW!!! Lou
thanks i found a couple, but bought a few. The last lot of 6 that i received was bought on ebay. There are out in circulation still, but it seems once the feds start pulling anything older then the 1999 series, what is left in circ will be lost forever. I may have 10 .. but i know someone on this forum who has a factor of 3 multiplied by some not sure if its a full set or not... but they have got to be close with many many many duplicates I think i may have a dup myself if you would like it
Great Stuff!! Thanks DJ for some insight on 295's and Web's! Do we forsee a deal with the 295 King in the future?? :smile :smile RickieB
Very well done Daggarjon. As you know I was heavily involved in 295s when they were first being discovered. I actually pulled the fourth known I-H block from circulation. It's still a very rare block. I haven't seen one in circulation in years but back in my truck stop days I pulled as many as 7 out in a single day. Being near Chicago I found lots of Chicago notes including many tougher combinations. I was also lucky enough to snare 2 L-X run 3 FP347 at a dollar each. 3 are known to exist. I used to publish all of my notes on the internet but alas I let my site lapse. I had nearly 2500 notes listed at the time. I have about 300 of the known combinations so, yes, I have a few duplicates. As you can imagine I'd love to see the collector base grow. They were quite hot for some time. I'll see if I can get in touch with a few experts to help provide information for your site. I still know a few people. clembo
i just now noticed the link wasnt active inmy original post... here is is for those folks who needs it to be an active link clembo - anything you might be able to provide i can post to my site to help others who happen to that page 1 question i have.. what was the name of the group that did so much work for the 295 community back in the day... long island something or so?? I was going to do a search on their club name and see if i could find info about them and 295 notes.
Currency Club of Long Island. I'm still a member actually. I should have Bob Kvedros' email address. I'll pop him an email and see what I can dig up.
Sorry i missed your post earlier thanks for the complimet! I try to help others learn as i do. Most of the information i post is usually new to me as well!
Um, that would be me, actually. Sorry about that; I'd just about forgotten I had either that page or that email address.... I didn't compile any of the data there; I was just posting it for Ed Zegers who didn't have the capability to do it himself. He sent me updates a few times and I posted them, but it got to the point where so few additional notes were being found that there wasn't much reason to continue. I do have a more up-to-date version in spreadsheet form. I'll send you an email, but it won't be much different than the 2005 version.
wow Numbers -- you sure do get around the NET I never knew you were a 295 guy. I know in the past you mentioned it not being an error, but a variety (i couldnt find the post when i looked the other day) but i wasnt aware you had all this data about the notes! i got the email/file (thanks!!) ... fit in my inbox just fine i dont think that email has file limitations, but i should look into that. I can understand about not getting many updates as time passes. Right now, it does seem like the 295 collecting is in a lull. Hopefully it will explode again in a few years. Web notes are still pretty popular... i am hoping for my wallets sake, interest declines for a few years ...and can then re-explode lol ever think about merging that 295 page onto the uspapermoney site? might make it easier to 'not' forget about it?! thanks again for the info!
I guess it's small world time Daggarjon and Numbers. I emailed Ed Zegers last night Daggarjon. He got right back to me and said he'd be more than happy to help. I gave him your website email address. I guess I wouldn't be too surprised if he sends you the same information as Number did.
I wouldn't really say I'm a "295 guy" specifically. I've only got about three or four of them (all common) that I found in circulation. I wasn't even in the numismatic hobby when they were originally released.... I keep thinking it'd be good to put up a page on the known engraving-error plates, but it'd be pointless without pictures and I don't own most of the notes to scan them. Let's see here: there's the 905 from whichever series that was in the '70s, the 7273 from the 1981 uncut sheets, the 129 from the 1981A/1985 $1's, the 106 (face plate, that one), the 295, ... am I leaving any out? (And, yeah, I think all of those would be considered errors: whoever engraved the plate number messed it up somehow. Maybe the earlier post you remember could've been talking about mules? Those involve plate numbers but are produced intentionally....)
these are the ones listed on the spreadsheet - at least for circulated stars it surprises me to a point, that there are more engraving errors similar to the 295 as discussed in this thread ... but i have never heard of. Its not really surprising to me that i dont know everything im just surprised it was never even mentioned here on the forum .. or that i have never seen it mentioned in currency books ect. kind of makes me wonder ya know lol
OK, some of these are new to me. Where can I find descriptions? I have a few of these, but can not discern any front plate number issues. John
The recent ones aren't really errors...it's just that lately the BEP's been sloppier than they used to be when engraving the plate numbers on the plates, so that some of them fall closer to or farther from the letter than they used to. Someone started out recording these as errors until we realized that there were tons of them on many different plates, but I guess nobody ever removed those descriptions from the spreadsheet. (And since the face plate number is engraved 32 different times on the plate, you may very well have notes from these same face plates that *don't* exhibit any unusual spacing of the plate numbers, too....) The placement of the plate position numeral, and of the "FW" on Fort Worth notes, has also been more variable lately than in the past. For example, I've gotten some 2003 $2's with plate position D3 where the "3" is engraved so high that it's basically aligned with the midline of the "D" rather than the baseline. In fact, as far as I can tell, *all* 2003 $2's with plate position D3 appear to be like this; apparently the plate position numerals are engraved in the master plate for the series. I think that's the most dramatic shift I've seen, but there are similar drifiting numerals in several other positions, some of them nearly as extreme--so I don't think we can reasonably call these "errors" when they apparently affect well over 10% of the notes in the entire series. The 2003A $2 master plate has similarly sloppy plate position numerals (though they seem to be a different set than the 2003 $2 plate, I think). The 2003A $1 Fort Worth master plate had pretty erratic placement of the "FW"s, too--that one even got written up in one of the weekly publications, with a quote from the BEP to the effect that they could care less about a millimeter or two either way.
