1983 Copper Cent?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by AgCollector, Mar 25, 2007.

  1. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    After the talk of these a while ago I decided to start weighing all the '83 cents I come across. Recently I found one that weighs 2.99 g. Reproduced on 3 different scales.

    I'm not familiar with the tolerances of copper cents- does anyone know what they might be? I have found zinc cents weighing the whole range between 2.35 and 2.65 grams and assume the copper range is similar.

    I've attached photos if anyone's curious; it's not dirty or glue-encrusted in any way so that can't make up for the extra mass.

    On a side note, what TPG has more of a reputation (i.e. authenticates more often) for strikes on "foreign planchets"?
     

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  3. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    if you have a metal detector, it will have a different reading and tone if it is copper. at least mine does. on mine it says 1 cent with a medium tone when i put a zinc cent in front of the search coil. when i put a copper cent, it gives the reding 10 cents and has a high tone.
     
  4. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    That's certainly within the range of copper-alloy cents. You may have a transitional error worth several thousand dollars. Does it have the clear ring of a copper-alloy cent?
     
  5. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    The noramal weight of a copper cent is 3.11 grams, so I don't know what to tell you. Nice find though. Good luck on it.

    Phoenix
     
  6. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    To be honest, I have trouble audibly distinguishing between the two. Is there a way to produce the sound without potentially damaging it? Drop it on a wooden table or something?
     
  7. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    Actually I do have one- good suggestion- I'll give that a try.
     
  8. gatzdon

    gatzdon Numismatist

    For the amount of wear on that coin, 0.1 grams of loss is not that unthinkable. It's a shame it's in such condition if it really is copper.
     
  9. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    Balancing the coin on a finger and tapping it with another cent does the trick. A low drop onto a formica kitchen countertop also works. A density (specific gravity) test is the gold standard, but few people have the requisite equipment.
     
  10. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I know. I was just posting the weight of it for him.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  11. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    Thanks- I knew that the mint targets 3.11 g but the question is more, how much variance do they allow? Which Mike said was at least 0.12 g since 2.99 g is within bronze planchet tolerance.
     
  12. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    Few test results- tried 5 known bronze and 5 known zinc cents on the metal detector (Garrett GTA-500) and all 5 bronze were at "9"; the zincs were between "7" and "8"; the coin in question was an "8".

    Ring test- coin in question sounded more dull, like the zincs.

    Will try specific gravity hopefully later this week.
     
  13. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Well, you never know. Personally to me, it doesn't have that copper "look" if that makes any sense. But you never know. Good luck.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  14. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    it looks like it is zinc from the picture.
     
  15. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    If it is copper-plated zinc, then it's still a great error, since it would represent a cent struck on a planchet punched out of rolled-thick zinc strip. Those are really rare.
     
  16. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    That is a possibility. I didn't even think of that.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  17. AgCollector

    AgCollector Senior Member

    Is there a name for that type of error? I'm having trouble finding out more information about them.
     
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