1982 snowman

here is a 1982 small date zinc. Is it a 82 D or a snowman? Any help would be appreciated. I haven't a clue what this may be.

 

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The bumps are in the copper coating. The one that looks like a mintmark was probably caused by air pocket below the copper coating that burst.

 

Appreciate that. New to errors but killin my eyesight past 3 months.

 

That is a very servere pitted die the fields are really pitted no value to it

Jazzcoins joe

 

Hi Guys,

Hobo is right on the money....but....

Those folks who are not sure what they are looking at should not offer opinions that sound like fact. If you want to say that "You think" the coin is something that would be a fair statement. keep in mind that when you don't know what you are looking at and you offer an opinion that sounds factual that you are teaching someone something that is incorrect. You are doing a disservice to that newer collector.

The initial issue was diagnosed by Hobo correctly. The "thing" under the date is a bubble that was caused by corrosion between the copper plating and the zinc. The overall appearance of the coin is also caused by the way the copper and zinc reacted to each other.

This has nothing to do with a severely pitted die.

I'm sorry if I sound a little crabby but too much bad information is being provided to new folks as being true by some who are doing nothing more than making bad guesses sound like facts.

Thanks,
Bill

 

Thanks for the helpful info Bill.

 

Hi Fishaddict and welcome,

Those that know me will tell you that I am not a crotchity, crabby old guy just siting around looking for things to complain about

As a new person to these forums and as a newer collector, you should be getting proper information. When I see bad information , particularly given to a "newbie" I usually point it out
Thanks,
Bill

 

bill
we never said you were old! :]

 

Hey Zigster!

You're a big help

How did Ralph Cramden say it? "You're a riot" , my friend

Have Fun,
Bill

 

I think that it is actually a large date 1982 copper plated zinc cent.

 

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ahhh - i thought this thread was about another snowman bummer ?

 

jazz,

As you often are, you are mistaken....You are comparing a die that has rusted which then strikes coins that look pitted as a result of prior corrosion or rust on the die itself, to the cent coin at the top of this thread.

Bubbles under the plating which is what the 1982 cent shows at the top of the thread is caused by corrosion under the copper plating. The lumps and bubbles on the 1982 cent were not put there by the die like the marks seen on the Morgan dollar you showed.

The bumps have a similar look to someone like yourself that doesn't yet know how to distinguish one from the other.

I was not being overly dramatic. I was trying to tell you you didn't know what you were talking about in a gentlemanly type way without out and out saying you were wrong.

So Joe, instead of trying to infer that I need to do more research on a subject with which I am very familiar, perhaps you should do the research before you pass out more incorrect information.

You are wrong most of the time unless you make a post after someone else who knows what he or she is talking about places a post up that you simply agree with.

I was trying to avoid this and for those who read this, I apologize but there are some here that try to seem like they are knowledgeable while they are merely a notch above clueless.

Again, my apologies to others but it is good for newbies to get a feel for who knows what's what and who doesn't.

Thanks,
Bill

 

PS: Some of The Canadian cents you are talking about have intentional dots placed on them to indicate when they were Minted. The 1936 dot cent , for example was minted in 1937 before new dies could be made that had George VI on them. The dots were intentionally added to the 1936 dies with George V on them to distinguish the years that the coins were minted.

Thanks,
Bill

 

Bill,

You and Hobo are correct but the word "corrosion" should be replaced with "contaminates" (i.e. dirt, dust, grease or other). These contaminates do not allow the Copper plating to adhere to the Zinc core correctly thus allowing bubbles to form. Also, if the contaminates have a somewhat corrosive nature, it can eat through the Copper plating and a fissure or hole will develop.


Frank




Frank

 

Layyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyydeeee's and Gentleman, in this corner we have..


Yep, its a large date..

 

I'm well aware of that bill but we are talking about something totally different here Pitted dies varities in the Canadian cents pitted dies Pitted dies is that clear enough for you.


Well bill you better do more research on the Canadian cents
There are Canadian cent coins thay are classified as pitted dies in the late fourties, fifties ,sixties and up to the ninties, they are labeled as pitted dies ,and are classified as varities in the canadian World I do collect Canadians so i have pretty good Knowledge on thet subject

I already had a bad encounter with youn on a subject a die break theory on my Rosevelt Dime,, and you were wrong remember that one Bill.

I also have read about American cents with pitted dies as I also stated in this thread. I will not make something up to throw off anybody especially the novices on this forum/ I have never seen a gas bubble that big on any cent the height of the image is different in appearnce as any gas bubbkle I have seen ,near the date as well as the area of the Mint Mark.I don't understand you ,an opiion has nothing to do with information any way and you get to wrapped up ,I think you need a long vacation BA HUMBUG.

Peace to you Bill
jazzcoins Joe

 

I hate to tell you this Jazz but the pimples on that coin ARE caused by Gas bubbles under the copper coating. As the corrosion continues between the layers the bubble will get bigger and burst like the one below the eight. Bill may not be the "connoisseur" of this forum but his opinion is very respected in the coin community. I have bit my tounge on several of your comments in the past but I promis i will point out any inaccuracies I see in the future so that Bill won't have to be your only target.

Richard

 

OK...I tink I'm gonna toss this penny. Caused more comotion than I thought. I'll just call it a pitted die,DDO,MD. WOW tthat sounds good.:smile
Honestly the various discussion was very inciteful. Thanks all
Mark