1982 Proof Nickel

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  1. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

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    how about a possible grade for this?
     
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  3. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    I've lost my Ruprecht........

    Nice pics Ruben. Looks flawless.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The frost is a tad weak IMO. The mirrors are good but could be better, they have some of what I call speckles that are common on Proofs of that age. There's some light black marks, again somewhat common of Proofs from that time. Overall, I dunno 67-68 DCAM probably.
     
  5. silverspoonvint

    silverspoonvint New Member

    I'd say PF69DCAM
     
  6. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Speckles?
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah speckles. They start out as dust I think, but there's lots of different kinds of dust. And some dust, with time, creates little tiny spots, speckles, on Proof coins. Sometimes the dust itself falls off, but it leaves behind the speckles. Sometimes you'll see them in small patches, other times just one or two here and there.
     
  8. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    So your talking about near the forehead?
     
  9. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    68DCAM fits it nicely.
     
  10. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    Is that good for the year? Think it is worth a crack out?
     
  11. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    The ones along the smile line behind his mouth, there's one on the lapel of the coat, Monticello has some in the windows and columns.
     
  12. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Crack out and in a 2x2 ;) and yes that is good for that year.
     
  13. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    i think Doug is referring to the small amount of dust that settles on the coins before encapsulation. This dust can be anything from dust from drywall at the mint to tiny particles of skin. Over time, this dust will discolor and mark the coins in non favorable ways. A good example is this 1909 liberty nickle, notice all of the carbon spots that have darkened over the years. This is likely the result of dust on the coin as well as someone breathing on the coin years ago.
    1909 liberty.jpg
     
  14. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    huh

    how can this be avoided? That them out of the plastic?
     
  15. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Sadly with proof coins, I don't know of any good way of preservation without damaging the extremely delicate mirror fields of the coins. I guess that is one of the main reasons that it is extremely difficult to find high grade proofs with any age.
     
  16. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member

    That brings up a good point. We think of grades as being static, and they are not. Coins change over time, even within the slabs.

    Ruben
     
  17. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I think you are absolutely correct Ruben. I don't know if coins are somehow treated as a means of conservation by TPGs before slabbing, but I suspect that they are not. That 1909 is a NGC PR-65, but it may be the ugliest 65 that I have ever seen. It may not have been that badly spotted before slabbing twenty years ago, but I would be a bit shocked if it would achieve any more than a PR-63 today. Even taken into account the somewhat lax standards applied today.
     
  18. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    68-69Dcam, and a nice coin.
     
  19. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    That's why so many 'rattlers' have been cracked out and re-submitted......
     
  20. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    That is because TPGs used to grade at higher standards.
     
  21. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter


    [with tongue in cheek] Yes, I know......:)
     
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