1981 D Cent MM

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  1. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    I don't see this one over at coppercoins.
     

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  3. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I would guess that is because your coin depicts mechanical doubling. (You can see it slightly in the date as well.)
     
  4. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    I looked pretty hard and I don't see it on the date at all, just the MM.
     
  5. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I see it on the top left part of the loop on the 9.
     
  6. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    That my friend is PMD, would you like me to image that or do you believe me?
     
  7. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    It may be PMD, it may be mechanical doubling. You would know better than I since I don't have the coin in-hand.
    What I can say is that the anomaly around the mintmark is not the result of an RPM. It is not unheard of for mechanical doubling to be isolated to the mintmark, and one of the key things to look at is the doubling itself. If you "take away" the doubled area, the mintmark appears smaller than it should be. That should tell you right off the bat that it is not an RPM.
     
  8. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Ahem. That area is PMD. Not the MM. Is English your first language?
     
  9. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Maybe you just didn't read my last response. In it, I outlined reasons besides the 9 as to why you may not find your coin on coppercoins.com. Instead of being passive-aggressive in your response, why not take the time to read what I said? I said that the mintmark could also be an example of isolated mechanical doubling.
     
  10. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable



    OK. I Like you Simon and I am not looking to cause trouble. When you said "It may be PMD" that sounded like you were referring to the MM.

    I do not agree with the concept " If you "take away" the doubled area, the mintmark appears smaller than it should be"... that huge MM is what caught my eye.
     
  11. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    If it's an RPM, what happened to the serifs on the "top" D?
     
  12. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    An RPM, by definition, is a repunched mintmark. That means that there is 1 normal-sized mintmark, and remnants of a 2nd. Therefore, if you took away the remnants, you are still left with 1 normal-sized mintmark.
    On your coin, if you took away the doubled area of the mintmark, from what I can see, the result would be a mintmark that has an incorrect shape and would be smaller than normal. That is why I say your coin has MD.
    Mechanical doubling is eye-catching and can make an MM appear bigger (after all, it does flatten out part of the design). But the fact remains that with a coin with mechanical doubling, if you take away the doubled area, the design will appear smaller than normal.
     
  13. Clutchy

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