1979 Wide Rim Error

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  1. JPAUL

    JPAUL Member

    Hey guys found this 1979 wide rim dollar error today. 1979 Wide Rim.jpg 1979 P.jpg
     
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  3. willhurst01

    willhurst01 Active Member

    nice find :thumb: i found three in a change machine at my work a year ago out of 20 dollars in small dollar coins :D
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    What's the error? Looks fine to me.
     
  5. JPAUL

    JPAUL Member

    The 1 in the date is right on top of the rim instead of being in it's normal position away from the rim.
     
  6. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    What Condor means is the wide rim is not an error but a variety.

    So to echo his question, what's the error?
     
  7. JPAUL

    JPAUL Member

    I do undestand what you are saying about coin being a variety an not a error but it was an alignment error in the die that caused the variety. You are correct this a variety but some will always call them mint errors.
     
  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Thus perpetuating the mistake.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The close/far dates are not the result of an alignment error in the die, it was an actual deliberate change in the hub design.
     
  10. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    This is tantamount to the change in design on the hub much like the 1878 7 over 8 tail feather design change on the Morgan dollars. The original reverse design contained 8 tail feathers on the eagle, and it was changed the same year to 7. Morgans with 8 tail feathers that hadn't been released into circulation were struck over thus creating the 7/8 tail feather variety.

    The same thing with the SBA dollar, the wide rim design was changed to the narrow rim design.
     
  11. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    :devil: Old soda machine is were you will find a lot SBA. so many folks use them as quarter back in the 1980-90
     
  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    agreed, not an error at all.

    If someone else makes a mistake, should you agree and perpetuate it?

    Or use the correct term and move on?
     
  13. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    why do they change the hub?
     
  14. JPAUL

    JPAUL Member

  15. dollar

    dollar Junior Member

    Great information!... thank you...
     
  16. 91stang2

    91stang2 Pocket change junkie

    whats with the sunken 'p', happen to notice--it has been struck-but common? thanks
     
  17. jatallman87

    jatallman87 I am Jay

    Prior to some time in the 90s the mint marks were punched by hand into the hubs. The appearance that the P is sunken is from the pressure of the mint mark being struck. I find this pretty regularly on SBA Kennedy halves and IKEs
     
  18. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    As the P is driven into the die the displaced metal has to go someplace. Typically it results in a raised bulge around the mintmark. When the die is polished after after hardening this bulge should be polished off leaving the field smooth. If it isn't the bulge in the die leaves a depression around the mintmark making it look like it is sitting in a depression.
     
  19. 91stang2

    91stang2 Pocket change junkie

    right on thanks!!
     
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