1979 D Dollar Cud

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  1. JPAUL

    JPAUL Member

    Hey guys would this be a Rim Cud or Collar Cud? Obverse 1.jpg Obverse 2.jpg Obverse 3.jpg
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    It looks like a rim break, but it is not a cud. A cud is a break along the rim that extends into the field.

    Chris
     
  4. Zimmy

    Zimmy Member

    This is considered a cud. The area affected is part of the coin's design. It just so happens that it doesn't extend well into the coin's design so it would be considered a small cud, not a rim cud.
     
  5. cpm9ball

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    I must disagree with you, Zimmy. The term "cud" has been defined here numerous times in the past, and here are the extracts from the Official Price Guide to Mint Errors by Alan Herbert......

    II-E-4 Rim Die Break (W)
    A rim die break is defined as: A broken area of the edge of the die with a MISSING piece of die metal beginning at the edge of the die face which does not extend past the inside edge of the design rim, and which leaves a raised AREA of the coin metal of any size or length on the rim of the struck coin.

    II-E-5 Major Die Break (WE)
    A major die break is defined as: A very large broken area of the die with a MISSING piece of die metal beginning at the edge of the die face and extending across the design rim and into the field or design, which leaves a raised AREA of the coin metal of any size or length which extends past the inside edge of the design rim onto the field or onto any of the interior design of the struck coin.

    The slang term for a major die break is "cud."

    Chris
     
  6. Zimmy

    Zimmy Member

    I see your point. I guess in this instance the rim design on an SBA is wider than normal so in theory a coin could have a very large rim design with a die break completly covering it from its rim edge to the field area and still be considered a rim cud, no matter how large it is.
     
  7. cpm9ball

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    Zimmy, note that in the definition of the die break it uses the term "design rim" which means whatever shape and size it may have including denticles.

    You just have to get used to the fact that there is no such thing as a "rim cud".

    Chris
     
  8. JPAUL

    JPAUL Member

    Great info Chris thanks,I notice on Ebay coins like this or being sold as" Rim Cud Die Break Coins​".Is there any value in this type of rim error.
     
  9. cpm9ball

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    The value is minimal at best unless you get two bidiots chasing the same coin.

    Sometimes, the buyers on FleaBay really don't make sense. One of the coins I consigned to a friend was a 2007-P Washington Prez $ that was missing partial edge lettering. It was graded NGC MS64 and it sold for $217!!!!

    Chris
     
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