1972-S Eisenhower Grade Opinions

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69dcam

 

I am not very good at grading Ike proofs. It definitely looks DCAM/UCAM to me. The chatter might be an issue. I think PCGS would grade it PF68 DCAM, and NGC would grade it PF69 UCAM. TC

 

Is that the bare coin or is in some sort of holder? I vote 68 DCAM if that's a bare coin. Nice picture!

 

Is this a trick question? :yes: I smell a twist.

 

No trick, I'm just wondering if the small white markings might be on a holder of some sort or if they are actually on the coin itself. Seems like a lot of times slabs get beat up pretty bad, for some reason.

 

Maybe.

The coin is graded however, I do NOT agree with the grade. I want to see how many folks agree with me that it was graded poorly.

 

Sorry I thought that was directed at me.
I would say 68 DCAM.
However I've seen at least one picture of a PCGS Proof-70 Ike that looked horrid - nowhere near that grade in my non-expert opinion.

So my official guess is that this is graded either PCGS 70 DCAM (too high) or 66 DCAM (too low).

 

I like your logic -- high or low.

I'll take high. 70 DCAM.


The above said, photographs of high grade ike proofs can be deceiving. Hairlines and depth of mirrors are often hard to judge -- from the photos only I could see anything between a 67 and 70.

 

69 dcam

 

I think 68 DCAM due to the milk spots

 

Here. Lets show ya a 69DCAM!

 

I am guessing it was graded 69 but really deserves a 68. TC

 

69dcam/ucam

No way anyone can say 70 looking at photos of the coin, and many wouldn't be able to accurately say 70 with the coin in hand.

 

I said it. :devil:

That said, I'm leaning towards 68 or even 67 after reading Lee's subsequent posts.

 

Here's the BIG picture!

 

How strongly effects such a sratch like that above Ike's head the grade based on Sheldon scale for proof and ms coins?

 

That's not a scratch above Ikes head, it's light reflecting off the edge of the design.

 

You're right BUncirculated, the larger image shows the reflection better. My bad!

 

I see no contact marks in the bigger pics, nor do I see any milk spots. I do see some light die lines that are very typical on Ike proofs including the MS70 examples I've seen in hand (only a small group, admittedly). The coin looks like a 69 to me, but grading ike proofs from photos is a fool's game, with all due respect to Lee and this thread.