1972 ddo.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by NewCollectorRick, Jul 8, 2017.

  1. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    Got this 1972 lmc back as change earlier. Its pretty beat up but def some kind of doubling going on. Might be mechanical but I def see something. Just posting a few pictures I took from the truck so not great quality. Ill grab it soon and take some good shots. Seeing if anyone could see what im talking about from my bad pics. 0707171543d.jpg 0707171543e.jpg 0707171543b.jpg 0707171542c.jpg 0707171536.jpg I looked at coneca examples and could not make determination
     
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  3. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    It's hard to say that one. It could be one of the many variety's, but I don't think so.
    Keep looking!
     
  4. RickO

    RickO Active Member

    Looks like machine doubling to me....
     
  5. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    http://doubleddie.com/384301.html

    I see what you are indicating and the shapes appear right for perhaps 003 and everything looks like MD or DDD to some people.

    Still, your images leave much to the imagination beyond showing the outline shapes and the notching hinted at in this BOV's mild spread.

    Even the 2 has the right shape.

    Keep in mind, you have to check all sources as VV and Wexler neither are repositories for all known to have been attributed.

    They sometimes cross reference, but, not always. Mr. Wexler has attributed most all on his site, and Dr. Wiles has attributed those shown on VV. There are also others.

    Try those pix again with your loupe when you get out of your truck and consider snagging you a more powerful loupe as well, if not a good used stereo.

    You are looking for the right things and have a good eye, get you a stereo and that G6's camera will love you for it. You deserve one.

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    I'm not saying it is, but, it appears to have the right shapes and you are on your way to understanding the steps you have to take to capture images at this level of detail so that the automatic dismissers all over the net might just look twice before chiming in with bulloney.

    Good luck with it and I hope you can get your eye through good glass on it to verify even if the images fight you.

    Note Mr. Wexler documents 7 (SEVEN) stages of this coin so nailing it to a specific stage will take careful examination and study. Combine that with your's having wear and that makes it just that much more difficult. Clearly you can see the attribution coin he used is certainly MS. That is a luxury you seldom have from CRH'ing or pocket change finds.
     
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  6. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    Beat up and filthy.

    Hint, on stubborn copper coins I use a short bristled make-up brush to gently assist and with the acetone. Don't do this on silver coins because those soft fox hairs or boar bristles will slice open the delicate skin. Will do a copper coin and leave no trace.

    IF you slice the brush hairs shorter than natural, they will become razor sharp and hurt even a nickel's, dime's or quarter's cupronickel hard surface. Find one for makeup or art, with as short hairs as possible.

    Give it an acetone bath and thanks for owning the pictures stink, because they do although contain enough data to suggest WDDO-003 BOV or automatic dismissals by people who study coins with 5X loupes only. I look forward to seeing the good images I know you will produce.
     
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  7. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Can you say " MDO " ................................................................
     
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  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Hey rick, I have a good coin for you .
    it's for sale, for 12 dollars and some change .
    It's on ebay and seller just thinks, it's the proof reverse
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  9. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member


    I can but his pictures aren't good enough to say either way. DDD, MD whatever is easy and safe under those circumstances.
     
  10. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    The " U " in TRUST, is the dead give away .
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  11. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    I'll suggest you have become far too accustomed to viewing detail and data lacking digital images and perhaps NCR will come back with better images approaching those found on the Wexler and VV sites.

    You may be right, but, I certainly don't see it either way for sure.

    The coin is dirty, worn and the images are made up of huge shaky pixels.
     
  12. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    I have my 17x H.E. Harris & Co. Loupe, a Carson 30mm with 3 flip out lenses and
    I'm working on them now. I found a few other interesting coins I can't wait to share as well. One is a 1968-S which I rarely see in rolls but it looks like serious doubling going on.
     
  13. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    You certainly have what you need to image them much better than most people image their coins. Consider an overhead and side light and pay attention to if they are too harsh.
     
  14. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    14995302119461876764002.jpg here are my only weopons. The 3rd is a pull out 10x with led light and it says 10x21mm.
     
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  15. NewCollectorRick

    NewCollectorRick Active Member

    Working on new pics now
     
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  16. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    I'll trade you some pennies and nickels for those. Really, I will. Clean those lenses and not dry. They'll get the job done.
     
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  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    If you have a true 1972 DDO cent, it will have distinct doubling on the word Liberty. On the word “In” the "I" will appear to have two “I”'s and the date will show 2 distinct impressions. There are several known lesser varieties.
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  18. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member

    It is pretty obvious he doesn't have that 5-6 figure DDO for sure.
     
  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Look into the master doubling so common for this year. At the very least, familiarizing yourself with it will be helpful down the road.

    And please... your photos aren't that bad, so don't let a certain someone's ongoing crusade have any impact on you. If you wish to improve your photography, please do so for YOU and not because someone refuses to stop the nonsense.
     
  20. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Even a PCGS MS66 is only a grand. A MS-67 might get you up to 5 grand but that's only a 4 digit figure. A turkey is a turkey and this might be a variety but it's just not worth what one wants it to be worth.
     
  21. Ordinary Fool

    Ordinary Fool Active Member


    You're full of it.
     
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