1972 DDO, Mule clash, freak coin, or junk? Need identifiation assistance

Hi all,

Thanks in advance for anyone who takes time to look at this thread.

At first I thought this was a 1973-D Lincoln cent (or even 1975), but due to everything that is going on with this coin and after taking pictures and looking closer with my loupe, I think it is a possibly a 1972 DDO with H/H and T/T (or H/T) clashing with a nickel. I have basic awareness of the multiple varieties of DDO's of this date and things such as strike doubling, so I just wanted to get a few opinions from the folks with way more knowledge than myself. This coin is very busy and kind of a mess at the same time. The more I look at it the more I change my mind what it is.




More high res pics are located here on my Google Drive folder:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7alN4U9-J65eU9RUmtla3NsLTQ

This is my first post and hopefully it will be educational to others including myself. Feel free to request more pics.


Kind regards,
Luigi

 

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to me it looks like someone with murderous tenancies got a hold of your coin. On the obverse I think it would be mechanical doubling which is common and is no added value. If there is a die clash I do not see it and to be significantly valuable it would have to be pronounced and clear. So in my opinion this is PMD and is just a freaky penny.

 

you have what is commonly referred to as a "parking lot" cent, it is damaged most likely from laying on the ground and continually getting run over by cars.. worth 1 cent..

 

@redeyelou

First, welcome to the neighborhood, Luigi!

Your cent is often referred to as "road rash". No, I do not believe that it is a 1972 "anything". Even if it were a doubled die from any year, the extent of the damage would not make it worth anything more than 1c.

Please tell me where you see the possibility of a clash with a nickel.

Chris

 

It's freaky, that 78' looks like it took some abuse.

 

Thanks for the welcome, cpm9ball, and to everyone for your feedback. I appreciate every response. The rim of the coin is what really make me thing this is a parking lot penny worth a buck or two at least (I understand it is in rough shape). At the 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock the rim looks like the reverse of a nickel (flipped 180° as normal for a reverse side). 12 o'clock being "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" over IN GOD WE TRUST (appears upside-down on rim when looking a the the obverse) and "UNUM" is about at the 7 to 8 o'clock position (upside-down also). I can post more pics or add them to my Drive link if anyone wants more specific pics.

And letters from Monticello can be spotted upside-down running horizontal through the eyes and nose of Lincoln's face.

 

Junk.

 

Here, are some references for you.
First, anything that is un-identifiable, put in a roll.
And two, hang out here for a while and Learn.
Three buy, some numismatic books that interest You!
Four, post photos of your coins, when in doubt.

Errors, are rare,
and for a new collector only in Mint State, AU at best.

http://www.error-ref.com/

 

Thank you. Good advice. I have a bunch of stuff in a questionable pile, so rather than waste a bunch of time now I will put it up in rolls and revisit it later. I have been a quiet, life-long collector and have some stuff I plan on sending to PCGS/NGC at some point for my first submission. At times I have read certain threads here to help me already with pieces in my collection, thus the reason I finally decided to sign up and hang around here to learn a little more. I have a Redbook from a few years back and the Cherrypicker guides (5th Edition) and use doubledie and coppercoins websites (for pennies) as references as well as PCGS's site.

I seem to really struggle with die clashes especially and more obscure errors outside of the normal everyday ones. I will check out error-ref now as I see it has lots of info that should help me.

Thanks again, everyone. I'm sure I will have more questions in the future, but will do my best to ask good questions and not spam you guys with them wasting people's time.

Kind regards,
Luigi

 

Any time, and when ever you want.
Welcome Luigi!

 

The reverse of you Cent is all Damage
Not a Mint Error of any kind