1970 Lincoln Cent DDO?

This is a 1970 P Lincoln Cent. The E, R and S in "IN GOD WE TRUST" look doubled. The R in "LIBERTY" looks doubled as well, looks like the serif is split. Is this a doubled die, if not please tell me why. Thanks

IN GOD WE TRUST:
LIBERTY:

 

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I think you may have something there!

Chris

 

Thanks Chris.

 

Coneca has 13 of them and we really need images of the date ..
http://varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/DDO 1970.htm

 

Here you go @Rick Stachowski Thanks!

 

Looks like notching on the end of the 9 and 7 nice!

 

So is there anyway I can authenticate this being a doubled die before sending it to get graded? Also, should I get it graded if it is a doubled die?

 

Let me eat lunch, then I'll take a look for you ....

 

Oh, i need to each lunch as well. thanks

 

Looks promising to me as well very nice find.

 

Check out this one and make sure it has the extra bar over 7 .
http://varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/1970PDDO003.htm

 

I do not see an extra bar. doesn't look like DDO-003 at least

 

Is there a die scratch inside that 9 .

 

yes. seems to be two very faint lines forming a triangle. looks similar to the one on DDO-002.
View attachment 594434

 

It's also wexler DDO-019, that's where I noticed it from .
http://www.doubleddie.com/823797.html

 

The Wexler DDO-019 looks much closer. Nice.

 

The imaging method you're using is notorious for giving the appearance of doubling or notching where none is actually present.

As for WDDO-019, I see no evidence of the "bar" on your coin (which you've also admitted to not seeing) plus you're claiming doubling elsewhere that isn't present on said variety, so at this time there's not enough evidence to conclude it is said variety. Markers are aids used in identifying varieties, but just because a coin may or may not display a similar marker doesn't automatically means it's the variety. I'm not trying rain on any parade here, but do urge you not to jump to any conclusions.

As for submitting, may I ask why this is something you wish to do (or would consider doing)? At best you're looking at a minor variety (and at worst nothing at all) that isn't likely to ever bring a premium worthy of the submission expense. That said, the big boys aren't likely to recognize it even if it is a known variety, which leaves you with ANACS or possibly ICG, but the above still applies.

 

I dont believe that my coin is any of the varieties that Rick and I have suggested. We, at least I am trying to narrow down my choices to come to a conclusion. Is it this variety, is it a new variety, is it a false alarm. I wasn't sure about getting it graded even if it was a doubled die I probably would not have gotten it graded. Also, I am fairly certain that mine is at least a very minor doubled die because I used the same "imaging method" and looked at more unc 60's and 70's Lincoln cents and none of the others had the notching and doubling that this one had. Also please explain how some imaging methods (i used microscope if you couldn't tell) could show notching or doubling that is not there. I cannot wrap my head around it.

 

I could tell you used a "microscope", yes, and I believe that if you did a little searching, what I said could be confirmed. There's nothing wrong with using them, but one must just be aware that looks can sometimes be deceiving. I'm not saying it is (after all, you have the coin in hand) but just keep it in mind. Sometimes cutting down on the glare (when using such "microscopes") can help. Other than this there are other imaging methods, but most are rather involved. Do you have an actual camera of any type?

If confident it's a variety, do consider sending to Wexler (or the like). I think it's around $5 (give/take) plus postage. If something new you'll get your name on it, but if not you're out very little money. A win-win.

 

Thanks very much. I do have a camera. Fujifilm Finepix HS10, I just have it, dont know why, not for coins or anything but the lens cannot be removed or changed so it will not work for macros and if I get to close there just isn't enough light or I can't focus, I'll dabble with some more photography methods until i find something I like.