1969S DDO?????? No, cant be..... could it???

Ok, after all this talk about 1969S DDO Lincoln Cents, I decided I oughta check mine. I have like 6 BU rolls so I really didnt want to start checking them all, but finally decided to go for it. Anyhow, to my amazement the 3rd coin I looked at was clearly doubled. And its very defined, the entire coin. I can see real good doubling in the date and on liberty. In god we trust is just as doubled and theres doubling on lincoln. The VDB at his shoulder is doubled. I can see it real well under his nose and all over the place.
So whats the odds that this was the 3rd coin I looked at??? And Im not an expert on Double Dies and Machine doubling, but I do have a few machine doubled coins to compare to and it does not look like the machine doubled coins. Anyhow, heres some pictures, they didnt come out nearly as clearly as I would have liked and the doubling doesnt look as drastic in the pictures as it does on the coin. But Im going to go try for better pictures. Anyhow, let me know what you think. And how much have these things been selling for lately anyhow???

 

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I can't really tell with the pictures. Does it look like this one?

Rhubarb

 

It's not, sorry.

Here's a picture of what the doubling should look like on "Liberty"



-Paul

 

Pictures are blurry but it looks like Machine doubling to me.


That is what they should look like.

http://koinpro.tripod.com/VarietiesUS/1969S1cDDOIGWT800W.jpg

 

HUM, well it does look like all the pictures you guys are posting, but not quite as drastic and not shifted the same way.

 

Please note the shelf-like appearance of your coin's doubling. This is called strike doubling, and unfortunately is very common on this date, which obviously leads to lots of confusion.


-Paul

 

My picture is MD. It is very confusing when trying to ID a variety. If it has a shelf or a stair step appearance then it's MD.

Rhubarb

 

Then what makes double die??? Is that when the die rotates???

 

how a double die is made is when the guy stamping the die hits it twice and on the second hit it moves just slightly resulting in a second image next to the other

 

That is correct. Machine Doubling(MD) is caused by the coin rotating when the strike occurs. Ejection Doubling is confusing also. It is caused when the coin is ejected it strikes the die. It is very confusing process but over time it is easy to identify the difference.

There are more thing's to look for than what I mentioned. Those are the basics. :thumb:

Rhubarb

 

DJP is speaking of the Date. It is produced by a Galvano. It is true that the MM is punched in the Die then sent to the appropriate Mint.

http://www.coin-gallery.com/cgstanton3.htm

Rhubarb

 

Ah interesting. That does clear it up alittle bit for me. So I finished searching the rest of that roll and I found another one. Everything is shifted the other way, looks just like the pic you posted of the date.

 

Post a picture. You never know:smile

Rhubarb

 

How do you explain the doubling of the mint mark? The mint mark is punched after the die is produced which means this must be strike doubling. Does your example have both?

 

Your assement is correct. Machine Doubling..Strike Doubling are the same thing. Like I said the Dies are made, then sent to the appropriate Mint. That's where the coins are struck. It is very confusing but over time you will see the difference in MD(Strike Doubling) Ejection Doubling.

Myi coin is MD


Rhubarb

 

Hold on, I'll be back in a minute..........

Okay, according to my count I have 5,432 of them.

Gotta go, and make some more.
See ya.

 

Stop looking at the date! This coin has such a strong shift to the doubling that it can be seen by the naked eye on Liberty and In God We trust. If it isn't very clear on those elements it isn't a doubled die.

 

What he said ^

Liberty is so obviously doubled on the true double die that there is no way you can possibly miss it.


-Paul

 

I understand that there have been 2 1969 DDO's verified so far. Has anyone heard if a value has been established for them yet?

 

The first one sold for $30,000 several years ago and I do not know if it came back up for sale or not! The second one sold this month at the Fun Show in Florida for $126,500 which I believes includes the Buyers Fee.


Frank