Although this coin is probably not “the’69-S doubled die”, it looks to me like a possible find. Anyone have any ideas on this variety? I hope this is not a case of strike doubling! It appears to show the most doubling on the word TRUST, with some other mildly effected areas (nose and mouth, as well as the hair on the top front). (LIBERTY and date might be weakly affected.) Thanks, A.J.
Just my opinion and I am no expert, but the flat shelf-like doubling on 'TRUST' looks like machine doubling. The date has more characteristics of hub doubling, but there is so much damage it is hard to tell.
I have several 69-S and 70-S machine doubled cents. Motto, Liberty, Date and even the mintmark on some. They seem to have made a lot of them for these dates. Even have a couple of 69-S proof cents with the machine doubling.
Thanks for the response(s). I would really appreciate an image from someone showing me their find or finds with regard to either a ’70-S or '69-S (with the mechanical doubling evident). It was not that easy for me to render an opinion on the coin presented – even after I viewed it under the microscope. I am supplying an image of another coin (1969-S), and would welcome any opinions on it…I wish to stress: just because a coin doesn’t match up with a known profile, should not nullify it as a possibility. Thank You, A.J.
AJ...your first example, the 69S, is typical strike doubling. Your second photo needs more magnification to be able to tell anything. Check out Ken Potters artical regarding forms of doubling: http://koinpro.tripod.com/Articles/O...OfDoubling.htm Larry Nienaber
Larry, It’s great to hear from you! I’m sorry for not responding about Lichanura, but I needed a photo, so I’ll wait until I find it. Regards the ‘70-S DDO (the marker was an exact match); I was just as uncertain about it as with this coin. I’d already read the Ken Potter link you mentioned, and have been in contact with him several times. Although my wavering opinion leaned in the direction of strike doubling, I still wasn’t that certain. I’m a bit baffled at the vehement nature of the responses (perhaps my eye is not that discerning). It would be helpful if you could give me the specifics based on the images themselves, not the general idea. Flat, shelf like, etc. is a bit too vague for me, as I see some rounded areas. Photos can be everything: resolution, lighting, distance and background, angle and depth of field. If you check the images, perhaps you will notice (if relevant) the gap above the “B” in LIBERTY. I’m anxious to hear any opinions about the second ’69 (I have improved the resolution using a 2nd image - and attached it to this post). Thanks again, A.J.
AJ...usually die doubling will almost always exhibit splits in the serifs of the letters and/or numbers, with rounded, not flat shelf like, secondary images. Attached is an example, 64 DDO-007 Kennedy Half Dollar. I spend all my time with Kennedy die varieties so I don't have a good example of a Lincoln cent, but you can see what I'm talking about on the RU of TRUST with this half. If you compair the TRUST in your first set of photos with this you can see no notching on yours, especally on the US. Also attached is a photo of a photo from an artical by J.T. Stanton ...very good example of the notching on the numbers. Your second photo looks like a photo of a photo of a doubled die...is that a 69S DDO-001? Larry Nienaber
libertyseated, Please accept my personal thanks for supplying your photo or image. It is certainly indicative of that type of error that has fooled me more than once. Often, I would set a coin aside, only to finally realize that it was not what I was after. Your coin (though proof and more definite) is a great example. Rarer still is a response to something I requested! Regards the two coins: although I profess to have some doubt about the first coin, it is on an inverted basis that I presented the second: both by contrast or similarity, one should be compared to the other, and this was my intention…I await a verdict for the so inclined…. That verdict has very astutely been rendered, by good ole Larry (atrox001), and it is absolutely correct. The image provided (if memory serves) is of a DDO-001 taken from an article about a ’69-S DDO discovered by an unemployed lady who resided in Oregon (1995). She was a coin collector, and didn’t rely on luck. She took her previous experience and knowledge – remembering there is a rare and valuable coin (1969-S DDO) – and used it in her examination of circulated coins. I believe she sold the coin for $3,000.00, setting up the deal from a neighbors phone (she didn’t have one). If I had provided the entire coin, it would have been obvious. Although the two coins have “inverted qualities”, my intent was to try to understand the more subtle differences. Yes Larry, I already noticed your previous post on the Kennedy half dollar. It is only because I possess so many Lincoln Cents (about 650 Lbs. worth) that I am particular in that regard. Your mention of the serifs should prove helpful. How goes it with herps? By the way, I have a really nice ’63-D DDO Franklin half (MS-60 or 63). Any idea what its worth (I haven’t checked)? You both have - my sincere thanks, A.J.
