1969 Canadian Cent Proof - Type of error ??

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by 10gary22, Aug 31, 2011.

  1. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Hey guys,
    1969 Canada 1c-crop.jpg
    Came up with a couple of old stock books from an auction. Pretty bleak, but this Canadian Cent was in a flip.

    I thought it might be a scratch at first, but when I scanned it, it looks like either a die crack or something got inside the die ?

    1969 Canada 1c.jpg

    Thanks,

    gary
     
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  3. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    I would imagine Proof Die Cracks are rare given the fact that the dies are treated with a lot of care for the entire purpose of
    having a "Proof" coin.
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I don't think it is a die crack. Looks more like a strike through.
     
  5. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    Condor could be right; I was just stating opinion.
     
  6. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    If it were a strikethrough, the southeast end terminates exactly with the detail. That puzzles me some. It might be a good place for a crack to start from though ?

    Anyway, there was another US cent labeled "cracked die" among these that I haven't looked closely at yet. Evidently someone thought these two stockbooks were culls ? They went to the block without preview so nobody bid very much. I took a chance.

    gary
     
  7. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member



    I got this pic which shows how the area in question is raised.
     

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  8. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    I really don't know. Die cracks are lines sunk in right?
     
  9. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    I thought a strike through would be sunken in because of the debris pushing into the blank, while a crack would allow the metal to be raised when the planchet was compressed. But I am easily confused and generally mistaken
     
  10. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    You maybe right, and I think you are.
     
  11. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Hope it is a crack. That could really increase the value.
     
  12. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    A "struck through (object)" appears as incused on the coin because the object is between the die and the planchet:

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    A die crack is raised because it is a crack (incused) in the die:

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  13. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member


    Thanks, I really believe the line on the coin is raised. When I looked as closely as my cheapo usb microscope would allow, I believe the mark looked like a router groove in the die. The line looked to me like the scratch you get when a drill bit walks on a metal surface. I guess I might need to send it to CONECA ?

    That was kinda how I had it figured.

    Thanks again,
    gary
     
  14. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    I just was discussing with a dealer about die cracks on Proof coins being rare because of how the dies are treated.
    It would be a very unusual thing. Thanks digman for clearing that up! Good luck Gary with the coin!
     
  15. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    Thanks ! I figure these dealer's stock books came to auction as part of an estate sale. And someone figured they were culls, because they were not allowed to be opened at the preview ??? Anyway, no one wanted to bid much. I got a good handful of 1c proofs and some 5c proofs with some errors mixed in. Think, taking a gamble might have worked out on these ? Hope so, anyway ! lol

    gary
     
  16. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    What type of errors were they?
     
  17. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    The flips were marked "die crack". But I haven't had a real good look at them yet. I thought one of them looked more like something on the coin ? But that was with my poor naked eye. lol
     
  18. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

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