New to this but wondering if this shows doubling or just deterioration or nothing. Thank you in advance for your feedback
No, it isn't! It is an alloy, not Grade A copper. It's only worth about 25% of the price of Grade A copper. Chris
Actually, per the Coinflation site, @Amos 811 is technically correct. That calculation takes the 5% zinc alloy into account.
But, it doesn't take into account the price that reclamation centers will pay for alloyed copper. It's not the same as pure copper and requires additional smelting to make it pure. I don't give a damn what Coinflation says. They're idiots! If you want the truth, why don't you call reclamation centers in your region (like I did) and ask them what they will pay for alloyed copper. No, don't ask about pennies because they will tell you that it is illegal to melt them. Chris
I don't think the OP was planning to recycle a single Lincoln Memorial cent and neither do I, nor do I really care that much about the issue, so thanks, I'll pass on calling reclamation centers. Maybe this topic got just a teensy bit off track, hmm? As to the OP's question, I see a regular cent here with no doubling, that's technically worth more than face value on paper but would not be worth smelting (obviously) for that extra cent (or fraction thereof) of copper. I would spend it.
I didn't think you would be hoarding the Lincolns for the copper, nor did I think that of the OP. The problem is that Amos 811 has been on these forums for years, and this topic has come up hundreds of times. I've explained this countless times so that newcomers to the hobby won't be misled. Amos 811 should know better. Chris
Thank you gentlemen for your responses. I've only been looking through change for the past couple weeks but have found I'll start looking at a penny and lose 2 hours very quickly. Might be the start of a new hobby. I have learned when the pennies got switched from copper to zinc though and have started putting pennies with more copper in a separate container after I clear them. Have a digital scale now for the 82's. This particular one caught my eye because of how close igwt seems to the rim, with we basically touching it. And how the sixes tail is long. Probably not longer then normal but I didn't know. Thought I could spot some markers but I trick myself into seeing things I want to be there. One thing I'm having an issue with is the "die markers" from Wexler's website (which I found a link to from a different thread here). Do I have to have a microscope to see these things? I'm over here with a mag lite and my son's magnifying glass, haha. If I think I have something I struggle with my phone for a pic in focus so I can zoom.
Also I am a union electrician so I know a little about the copper game. Have different buckets for clean copper
Just to be clear, I say this only for the sake of friendly discussion. Per said site, he is indeed. The problem is that coinflation as well as other similar sites, due to improperly presenting said information, do little but contribute to unrealistic expectations. Illegal or not, melting such coins isn't a difficult endeavor, and would be very easy money if the alloy was indeed worth grade A prices. Copper isn't silver (as an example) and is thus treated differently. Classic straw man. You know better.
Responses like this are surely not needed. Are you trying to be insulting? It's all over these threads. "I've been doing this for years so let me troll in on how stupid these people are." Apologies if I've posted this in the wrong forum or titled it not to your liking
Some do have and use microscopes, yes, but generally speaking one isn't necessary for your stated purpose. A simple loupe should more than suffice. In most instances 10x will be all you should ever need, but some do prefer higher magnification. I had and used a 16x for such situations and never felt the need for anything more powerful. However, and if interested in acquiring one, do understand that some of the cheap Chinese loupes are both not of the claimed magnification and have optics of less than acceptable quality, especially for one who will be regularly using it to examine coins. While paying up for quality glass may be tough to swallow for someone new, if you think you're likely to stay with your new hobby, it will be money well spent and your eyes will thank you for it (trust me on this). Welcome to the forum.
Am I the only one that sees a difference in the "Li" and "berty" in Liberty? Looks like the Li is smaller. And- it is a slightly misaligned die coin.
FWIW, I did notice the slightly misaligned die on the reverse. It's not enough to add any premium, I don't think, but it is indeed an interesting detail if you like minutiae like that. I'm not that kind of collector, personally, but I can respect the sharp-eyed folks who are. PS- sorry your entrance has been somewhat marred by the squabbling.
It does seem to appear that way, yes, but is likely due to its time in circulation. The LI, being close to the rim, is also in an area that receives more protection than the remaining letters.
http://doubleddie.com/814660.html Here is the example I was looking at. Thought I could spot an extra line on the S's in states on the reverse and the designer initials. Very worn coin though. Still not sure what the spread of a double means or all the abbreviations used in describing such things