1967 Kennedy Dark Toner

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Mkm5, Feb 10, 2021.

  1. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Found this one in an old pile of 40s.

    Not sure what caused this toning, maybe a ground dig? IMG_20210210_222355.jpg IMG_20210210_222342.jpg
     
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  3. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

    Hmmm. That's a hard one to guess , but it's possible . :cool:
     
  4. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Can’t tell anything from those photographs. Need better pictures.
     
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  5. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, my camera doesn't work very good without natural light!
     
  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I seen them like that. I seem to recall there’s even a chemical that will turn them black like that, but don’t hold me to it. At any rate, I don’t think that’s tarnish, I think something reacted on it.
     
  7. Mkm5

    Mkm5 Well-Known Member

    Yeah, maybe a mild acid like lemon juice or vinegar.
     
  8. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    The coins that @paddyman98 digs seem to primarily have a rust color to them. Coins that come out of the ground in my neck of the woods tend to be more like the half you are showing. Of course it could be anything but something has certainly reacted and turned that half.
     
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  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Environmental damage.
    KenObv.jpg KenRev.jpg
     
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  10. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The outside layers of the 40% silver halves are 80% silver, 20% Copper, so you can see toning/tarnish similar to a 90% silver coin. It looks like some type of environmental damage, but outside of a guess, there really isn't any way to determine the exact cause. Not really a big deal, because whatever happened, happened after the coin left the mint.

    It's ok to be curious about the causes of PMD, but don't get too worried if you get different answers on here. There are countless ways a coin can get damaged/tarnished after it left the mint.
     
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  11. John Burgess

    John Burgess Well-Known Member

    the black is usually indicative of silver(I) sulfide (Ag2S). what would be called in the hobby, "terminal toning" of the silver.... silver oxidization. in fact someone could have done it on purpose even. Jewelers do it to silver, call it "oxidized silver" or "blackened silver" just speeding the process with chemicals to give it an antiqued look that wears in as some of the oxidization wears off. Could have been a test a jeweler was doing before doing it to their work piece.

    Not sure of the cause to get it to that point, the specific circumstances, or how long it took. Given enough time and the right conditions all silver coins can get to this point.
    I'm fairly certain just like silverware, it could be removed with a coin dip or any silver cleaner, however with toning to that extreme, it's certainly going to have damaged surfaces under it unless it hasn't been there long and was accelerated to give it that patina. it's still a 40%er though.
     
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