I Was Checking Through Some Of My Older Proof Sets And Came Across A 1964 Proof Set Still Sealed In The Mint Cello And To My Upmost Suprise There On The Back Of The Quarter Was A Denver Mint Mark. Has Anyone Ever Seen This Before??? I Would Be Very Curious As To Any Possible Value This Might Have As A Collector Item. Thanks, Soup-per-man
It was probably substituted. If you look closely you'll likely see a split in the plastic which allowed someone to swap it.
I Have Checked This Cello Out Very Closely And Cannot Find Any Slits Or Other Deformities. Something Else That Is Also Wrong With This Set, The Half Dollar And The Philidelphia Seal That Is Placed In The Cello Have Also Been Reversed. The Seal Is In The Middle Instead Of On The Corner. This Is To Me A Very Unusual Set.
can you post a photo of the seam (where the set is ironed shut)? There are members who can recognize if the seam is proper for that year.
1964 Proof Set With "d" Quarter I Tried Following The Instructions For Uploading Pictures But I Don't Think I Was Successful. When I Clicked On The Submit Reply Button I Got A Message That My Text Was Too Short.
None of those coins looks proof to me. Also, I do not have my old sets handy for comparison, but I don't like that plastic. The old sets I think had a smooth seal - not those dimples.
That one is a mystery. The pliofilm looks OK, but those sure don't look like Proof coins. And they don't put D mint quarters in Proof sets
If it is a real deal thing I would think it would be worth something. I would sure like to have something like that.
I'll be darned. That looks like a contemporary counterfeit. Indeed, it looks like they looked for some nice gems to help with the deception so these might be worth a great deal more than a regular proof set. The quarter especially looks very gemmy. The plastic is all wrong for a set from that era. the crimping machine was different and it's sealed in a different pattern. My guess is that the envelope would be counterfeit as well since these would have been very difficult to obtain at that time. There was only a brief period in late '64 to about late '66 that these would be profitable to make. It's surprising more haven't turned up.
I Have Several Other Proof Sets From The 1960-1964 Era With The Exact Same Seal. Also The Envelope That These Came To Me In Is Exactly Like The Rest Of My Sets. I Do Agree Though That The Coins, Especially The Half And Quarter Are Not Of Proof Quality, Although They Are Of Gem Quality.
Maybe more have turned up Clad. I checked the seal too. Don't have my sets anymore for comparison so I looked on ebay. There are several currently offered with the same seal pattern. On one or two of them the coins looked questionable as to Proof vs Unc, but that might be the pics. The seal pattern was quite plain though.
I'm probably just being a "dumb kid" for asking this...but I don't see anything suspicious about the plastic. I really don't know much about these sets so I don't know what to look for. What about it (the plastic-not the coins, I see the suspicuous part there) is standing out to you experts? I even went so far as to dig out my 1964 proof set and I still don't see anything with the plastic seal that is different. I'm just asking out of curosity, I would like to be able to interpret these things better.
What we are talking about is the sealed edge of the plastic or pliofilm. Take a look at a set of any year close up, then look at another that was issued in a different year and compare them. They use a machine to seal the plastic, and in different years there is a different pattern formed along the sealed edges. In some years it is pattern of parallel lines, in another it might be rounded dimples or squared dimples. But typically, all of the sets from a given year will have the same pattern. So it's not that the sealed edge looks suspicious - it's that it is different from what other sets from the same year are. After a while you get to notice these things - of course most people think you are nuts when you pay such close attention to seemingly meaningless details :whistle:
Here is the real thing for comparison purposes.Look closely at the top and bottom edges of the plastic!
