1964 D Jefferson Nickel needs Experts Opinion

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by SchwaVB57, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    I checked the internet for possible like type issue. I am leaning PMD? Did someone put in a vice? IMG_0020.JPG IMG_0021.JPG IMG_0022.JPG IMG_0023.JPG IMG_0020.JPG IMG_0021.JPG
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I'm thinking that it is PMD, for sure, but I'll let others speculate on what happened.

    Chris
     
  4. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    The picture of the edge is showing thinner material than where the image is not smudged. Could the planchette be thinner in the top half to allow the blurry image be both on the OBV and REV?
     
  5. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    The thickness would not matter in the upset mill the rim would still be full. Definitely pmd.
     
  6. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    They made 1.8 billion of these. Even with an error, the rest of the coin would have to be immaculate to be worth anything. This looks like damage.
     
  7. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I'm on the fence. I don't think you should spend it until someone proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is damaged.
     
  8. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    Under the mintmark it almost looks like the metal wants to start flaking off. Looks like a worn die coin kind of rough, not smooth.
     
  9. Stoneman2

    Stoneman2 New Member

    The pics are not super sharp but it looks like you have a coin struck on a planchet that split before it was struck. If you weigh it , it should be less than 5 grams. There should be striations on the reverse where detail is totally missing, or if this coin saw much circulation , what is left of the striations. Here are some pics of two of my coins that the planchet split/laminated before they were struck. They show the striations I speak of . Nice find !

    [​IMG]1960-D split b4 strike by stoneman227, on Flickr

    [​IMG]1959 lam b4 strike by stoneman227, on Flickr

    [​IMG]1959 lam b4 strike c by stoneman227, on Flickr

    [​IMG]1959 lam b4 strike d by stoneman227, on Flickr
     
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  10. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    I will try to get a sharper image and check for the striations. Thanks.
     
  11. Stoneman2

    Stoneman2 New Member

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  12. Stoneman2

    Stoneman2 New Member

    There is speculation that the upsetmill is the culprit that finds the weaknesses in a planchet and forces the split.
     
  13. SchwaVB57

    SchwaVB57 Well-Known Member

    I had to look up what an upsetmill is. Thanks!
    Upsetting Mill A machine that raises the outer rim on a planchet prior to striking. Upsetting ensures that the rims are properly formed during striking
     
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