Nice Rpm you could also see the line in the middle of the other D. I don't know what variety it is . JC
This maybe your RPM http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1960&die_id=1960d1mm024&die_state=lds
I have had trouble logging into coppercoins the pass couple days, maybe it is my server and IP that has not updated. It looks to me like a D/D RPM 23. http://www.lincolncentresource.com/RPMS/1960Drpm23.html
Here it is; http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/diestate.php?date=1960&die_id=1960d1mm023&die_state=mds
I am wrong to say there are 3 D's there?....Looks like a RPM 23, but there looks like the remnant of another D between the two obvious ones...
OK, stupid question, what causes that? Is it like a double strike at the mint? When this happens how many are struck like that before they catch it? I know this falls in the "Variety" category, but do people know how many of these were produced? I am struggeling with this premium we place on varieties and who determines what is a variety. I have made a previous post about a 1941 lincoln I have with a slanted "1", but I gues it is a post mint error. You really have to know your sh*t on coins when dableing in the market.
Before 1990 the mint mark was applied by hand to the die and because the mintmark was applied by hand, minor mistakes often occurred. For example, punches bounced or mintmarks were applied slightly out of place and then corrected.
And often if the "puncher" noticed the first strike was badly placed, they would try to abrade it down and repunch. These are harder to find except on higher grade coins. Usually if they could cover it with the second ( or sometimes third) blow, it produced these RPMs. 1960s and 1961s in denver produced many RPMs and Large date/ small date DDOs ( Rocky mountain HIGH ). Jim
Wow big ???'s The mint-mark is placed/punched into the finished die, sometimes 2 times, three times, 4 and so on - remember the finshed die is in a reverse/negative and encuse state with devices, lettering, date ect. In other words the highest point of the die is the lowest point of the coin. In these years they must have been on drugs because there is hundreds of different re-punched mintmarks esp. in 1960, 61. These have nothing to do with the actual striking of the coin. DoublED dies and re-punched mint-marks occur before the first coin is struck. Sometimes, (and on most of these) thousands if not hundreds of thousands were struck and released. The (the mint foreman) probably did catch it (the die) but did not care or think it was significant enough to pull from production. The premieum we place on most anything is do to supply and demand. popularity and current market/collecting trends. If you find a way to know what that is going to be in the future you will become very rich indeed. The "who" determines what is a variety are the top experts in the field some of the names are Welxer, Potter, Bordner, Crawford, Wiles, Fivas, Stanton and there are other and most of there own files system which often do not match up or overlapp/cross reference. Luckly most of the major ones in the Red Book or Cherry Picker's Guide are easily known. Finally a big "yes" you have to "know your stuff" but you do if you are going to become a expert in anything. The most important thing is to learn first "how coins are made". If you know how they are made you then can know how they are not made and be able to first determine if it could or could not have happened art the mint. Then move on to the next thing, looking at 100,000 of coins, study books, websites, articles, etc. It's sort of like golf - if you started at age 8 and played every week you'd be pretty good at it by the time you were 65. So if you start on die varieties at age 45 or so (like I did) you better work at it every day and in 20 years or so "you'll be pretty good at it with only about 60% of it left to learn - same as general coin collecting if you want to become an expert.
How much magnification is needed to find this sort of thing. My eyes have gotten so bad I have to use reading glasses just to see the dates. I have never seen any of these RPM's or doubling of any kind, I am thinking maybe I need to magnify it more, but not sure how much is needed. Kent
