I had just opened a roll of pennies and this was inside Looks like its a 1958 Double Die Obverse to me. What about you? **The coin looks different in a couple pics because I took the pics at different angles and lighting. I kinnda rushed so i could post asap lol
There are only 3 or so of these known. This photo is one, courtesy of Lincoln Resource and Mike Prinze's photo. If yours doesn't look like this, the chances are good it isn't one. Look at the spread of the letters in the motto and LIBERTY.
This leads me to a question I've been wanting to ask but keep forgetting. If it's a doubled die, that means the die itself has the doubling. Do they inspect every coin that comes out of the press as soon as it comes out? If so, how do any of them get into circulation? If they don't inspect them as they come out of the press, why aren't there MORE of the coins in circulation? Surely they used that die to make more than just three cents. (Such as when there are only three known doubled dies of a certain coin).
coppercoins.com EDS markers Obverse Markers for this die state are not yet known. Reverse Markers for this die state are not yet known. MDS markers Obverse A heavily polished obverse shows die scratches throughout the obverse with particularly heavy scratches on the head under GOD. Reverse Die scratches encompass the entire reverse with a heavier parallel die scratch between the IT of UNITED and the first A of AMERICA. See marker photos for more specific locations of these scratches. Reverse is MDS. LDS markers Obverse Markers for this die state are not yet known. Reverse Markers for this die state are not yet known. Value Information The values represented here are based on sales results, auction results, and information derived from overall percentage based values given for lower grade specimens in other guides and sales sheets. It is not intended to be interpreted as a buy or sell price nor intent to purchase on behalf of this site. It is only to be used as a guide F...................1.00 VF..................2.00 EF..................3.00 AU..................4.00 UNC.................6.00 MS63................8.00 MS65................12.00 Quick Links... Go to the date guide main page Back to the 1958 date guide page Check out the 1957 date guide Check out the 1959 date guide 1958P-1DO-001 | CLASS 5 (MDS) CONECA: UNKNOWN | Crawford:UNKNOWN Wexler: UNKNOWN | FS#:UNKNOWN coin photographed is credited to Bob Piazza. A light spread can be seen on the TRU of TRUST com
Sorry, I totally misread it. Thought you were asking what a doubled die was. To the original question, I'm fairly certain they do a quality control check, but perhaps not necessarily right after it gets struck. Maybe they check it when the coins are being sent out, and if they see something out of whack, they check the dies?
True doubled dies occurred in the older process of multiple die pressings, where the 'master die' was used to make a working die ( to make the coins) by pressing the harder master die into the softer working die. Once would not do it on the older presses, so the working die was taken out , heated ( anneal) to remove any induced hardness and reinsert again, using lugs on the dies for correct orientation, and pressed again. This process continued until the die foreman declared the image sufficient to make the impression. Sometimes the lugs were worn and the repetition was not done exactly and overlapping ( doubled)images were formed. Also sometimes the lugs were altered to make the process faster, and this increased the number of DD. Yes, the supervisors should have noticed, but in most of that age, it wasn't deemed a really big deal, they were just make spendable money. With the introduction of the single squeeze method, pressures of the presses could make a die with a single press rather than annealing in between multiples. Even with a single press, there were doubled areas on parts of the coins, later to be traced to movement of the master die as it squeezed the working die and as it raised up, it sometimes did not do so accurately and 'flicked' over making a doubled area. This is modern DD, and I personally consider it to be a different form of mechanical doubling ( MD)rather than a Doubled die by the classical means. Of course there are many different types of misalignment, including more than one on a single die, so it can get very complicated to explain them.
No. Every coin is NOT inspected since these are minted at about a 100 or more a minute. "Batches" of coins are inspected and if flaws are found then the entire batch gets recycled. How would only 3 get out? Lets just say they didn't used metal detectors in 1958. Other scenario's would be just a few coins in a certain bin that passed batch inspection. Of course, just because only 3 are "currently" known (to PCGS that is - ANACS has 2), does not mean that others aren't out there. Rare coins are found on a regular basis anymore.
Sorry it took me so long. Here are a couple more. But i rushed while taking more pics to show. So i will post more when im not so rushed. HAPPY LABOR DAY EVERYONE! stay safe and enjoy the day off! Wooohooo
I haven't worked at a mint but I have worked in food processing plants, and other types of assembly line manufacturing plants. Typically you would have a "quality control" department. They would have inspectors tour the plant and take samples of the days production at various times. If someone detected an error the bad coffee or whatever would be thrown out. In the case of the mint there were lots of presses running at the same time and the days production was mixed together from all the presses. If a "minor error" was found it might not be worth the trouble of losing the day's production. They might have just replaced the die and continued. Some dies remained in service quite a while because "LDS".
