1947 S RPM-004?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by MatrixMP-9, Oct 30, 2019.

  1. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    This penny is graded "G" for garbage BUT, I noticed the mint mark. I am assuming just a lucky or weird hit but when I look at the photos of RPM-004 in VV, it looks kind of like it. Im not real good with judging placement but it appears in the right spot? There isnt any markers to help me eliminate it so I figured Id post for quick opinions.

    Sorry for the bad "full shots" cant use my phone where Im at right now. Thats is good as it gets with the scope lol. Im not sure full shots make a difference in this particular case.

    thoughts????

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  3. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    quick acetone bath. cleaned some of the crud off

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  4. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  5. gronnh20

    gronnh20 Well-Known Member

    Use the point of the four near the nine and draw a straight line down through the top of the $ mintmark. That line would bisect the S mintmark right of center. Then using the tail of the nine, draw another line through the side of the mintmark. That line would bisect the S mintmark almost center of the upper curve.

    Now go back and look at the pictures of the mintmark placement from the link @furryfrog02 posted. You will see your mintmark is much higher and a little more right than the known RPM.
     
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  6. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    too many "4" in my life today. I meant 006.

    http://varietyvista.com/02a LC RPMs Vol 1/1947SRPM006.htm

    Not 4. Im sorry. Its hard for me to tell between photos even using that method. I sincerely appreciate the input for sure! I shall put it back into her spot in the book! Its the little notch or whatever off the bottom of the s that had me looking. Must have just took a hit like the rest of the coin!!

    thanks for helping with this one guys!
     
  7. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I don't think it is 006 either. If you look at the VV coin, you can see definitive split serifs at the top tail and bottom tail of the S. Even though your coin has wear and damage (to the mint mark), you should be able to make out the bottom split. But I don't see it. Also, while the positioning is close, it's not exact (I did not do an overlay). Finally, with your coin in hand, you should be able to make out some of the more significant die scratches above and about the date. I can't see that in your specimen's photos. Perhaps another here can comment to that extent. Good luck on the hunt.
     
  8. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Not 006 either.
     
  9. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    Its dead!!! Was a long shot. thanks gain guys. I havent put in much to be looked at lately in the error section so I figured it wouldnt hurt. I always learn something with these anyway.
     
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  10. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Maybe the next one. Keep grinding!!
     
  11. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

  12. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    NICE! you should publish a book with this.....I would pay money for it. Takes ALL questions out of it to help with elimination.
     
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  13. Chuck_A

    Chuck_A Well-Known Member

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  14. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Mint Marks are hand punched on the Dies, not the individual coins.

    They originally punch them in a general location on the Die which varies slightly from die to die as it was not automated. When they do Die maintenance and manually repunch the MM, they can slightly move it and create an RPM on the Die.

    MM were hand punched up until 1989.
     
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  15. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Actually - I think 1989 was the last year mint marks were hand punched into cent working dies. Although mint marks were hand punched in somewhat random locations into the working dies that struck coins - every coin struck by a specific die would have a mint mark in the exact same location.
     
  16. Chuck_A

    Chuck_A Well-Known Member

    Thank you for the clarification, I've heard several different conflicting statements about mint marks and the human factor in the process along with the year it was changed. I never thought that there were people actually marking each individual coin.
     
  17. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

  18. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    All that was great but now a 006. Lol
     
  19. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    1947-S RPM-006 mint mark is located further south and further east than the mint mark on the OP's coin.
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  20. MatrixMP-9

    MatrixMP-9 Well-Known Member

    These "maps" are so great.
     
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    justafarmer Senior Member

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