1943 nickel How can you tell if it was struck on non silver planchette?

Thank you for giving me an opening to use my God-given talent of annoyance.

After all,we might have the Monks to thank, for what probably was a writing tool for communication used in a French Monastery.

If there is going to be a growth of the Spiritualism Movement, why not start there? There is a reason for Scriptoriums, no?

Monks with Pens...here we go again.
The zygote of the device we are currently communicating with in real time.
You are all Heresiarchs!

 

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All right then Bullwinkle - how about you explaining why weighing the coin won't tell us anything.

 

Stupid is as stupid does?

Because the silver war nickels were designed to have exactly the same weight as the copper-nickel alloy nickels they replaced. Both are 5g.

Did you think they happened upon those weird alloy percentages randomly? Oh, let's add a pinch of manganese so it tastes better.

This was before Hall effect and eddy current sensors. What mattered were diameter, thickness, and mass. With relatively tight tollerances.

The replacement alloy needed the same specific gravity as the 75-25 copper-nickel alloy so the dimensions were correct.

Shut Up Rockey!

 

What if the coin doesn't weigh 5g?

 

If it's out of tollerance, it's a problem either way, but it still doesn't tell you anything about the composition.

 

If the coin's weight is out of tolerance - other than for the sake of curiosity its composition is a moot point.

 

Not really...

An off metal (wrong planchet) would have some numismatic value.

Out of tollerance doesn't have additional value.

 

I think I just lost my Annoyance Champion Hat, and it was not even a fair contest.

Oh well, hats off to youse.

 

Kinda ironic I suppose being XRF analysis has a hard time properly detecting manganese.

 

Yep...sort of wondered when that was going to come up.

 

But it would see silver or no silver.

 

All nickels are 5.0g. Almost all are 75% copper and 25% nickel. The first ones the Shield nickel, the Liberty (V) nickel, the Indian Head (Buffalo) nickel, the Jefferson nickel regardless of composition. While the silver nickels have a different alloy 56% copper 35% silver 9% manganese they all weigh 5.0g.
Some coin shops and jewelry shops have XRF and will test it for free.
99% of the time you can tell the difference between a silver nickel and a regular nickel just by the patina.

 

I'm a bit surprised no one mentioned the difference in the "feel" of a war nickel compared to a standard nickel. Maybe it's just me but war nickels, regardless of wear, always feel a bit "greasy". Might be the manganese in them but I don't know that. Take a standard nickel and a war nickel and rub each of them between thumb and finger. To me, they feel remarkably different.

Anyway, the original OP way back when never substantiated his claim to having 1943 nickels struck on standard nickel planchets so his claims are rightly refuted.

And he proved a troll when he took (bogus) offense at being questioned.

 

If it were on Jupiter, it would weight substantially more, but have the same mass . . . .

Did I just reply to the wrong thread?

 

Nope, like most people I accidentally conflated mass and weight. I got it right in one post and wrong in the other.

Just remember what mass is without the m!

 

Can I please have my Hat back?

You are abusing it.

 

As you wish . . . .

Z

 

Buying coins at an estate sale, I mentioned that war nickels are 35% silver and the guy running the estate sale said "I didn't know that"