1943 copper penny!!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by cogglews, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    It does not stick to magnet, it has the 3 longer than the 4 its definitally not copper plated... i dunno haven't been able to take it to an expert but i will post some screenshots in about 20 minutes...
     
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  3. Coinlover

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  4. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    The odds are at least several hundred thousand to one that you have an artificial "3".

    The most common methods are tooling an "8" into a "3", and cutting a "3" off a different coin and attaching it with glue.

    Some of the work is very skillful and almost impossible to detect from a picture, but let's see a closeup of the date. It's always possible that you've beat the astronomical odds.
     
  5. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    The penny does not look shaved at all and does not look glued on, and the penny is lighter than a 1935 wheatback penny also and it is not even a MM smaller
     
  6. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    I can't seem to get a good picture of it, i need a better camera i will have it soon
     
  7. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    The 4 is really small on it and the 3 is much larger also, and if you look on ebay at the fake ones that sell for like 2$ that are just copper plated like fake penny's it looks exactally like those, and also it is unminted and and i see NO sign's of shaving at all
     
  8. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    I forgot to say [​IMG] to CoinTalk in my first reply.

    How did you come into possession of this cent?
     
  9. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    It's my mother's she found it yesterday when i gave her a 1942 wheatback because she likes things like that, and her friend was telling her about a 1943 copper penny and she looked through what she had and sure enough she found one... and i must say its pretty beat up it's definitally not copper plated its pure copper, and the 3 us much larger than the 4 even maybe BARELY longer than the 9 there is no way it couldv have been carved from an 8.
     
  10. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    1943 copper penny!

    Okay i have read just about everything there is to read about them, It is FOR SURE all copper, no doubt about it.. The three is much larger than the 4 and it curvs down i have seen a 1948 copper wheat penny and compared and there is NO way this 3 could be mate out of that 8.... the penny is NOT minted.... also it is a little lighter than a normal penny by probably .3 of a gram, looking at it through a mignifier it does not look shaved at all... all sign's point to it being a 1943 copper penny... however the coin is kind of beat up also almost a little bent just a tad bit.

    I don't have a good enough camera to get pictures yet but i will...
     
  11. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Anyone who has seen forum member Billzach's hobo nickle workmanship will disagree with you there.

    Now that I know how you got the coin, my bet has changed -- the odds against it being genuine are at least 100 million to 1. Whether it circulated enough to be "pretty beat up", or only "kind of beat up", it went through multiple collectors' hands and none of them sent it to a grading service for slabbing and authentication.
     
  12. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    Hi Cogglews,
    Was the weight of your coin 2.70 grams or 3.11 grams this will help.
     
  13. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    My mom has had it since she was a little girl her grandmother gave it to her.... and i havent had a chance to weigh it i know it should be a 3.11 grams right? And Right now i'm starting at a 1948 wheatback and the 1943 copper and there is no way that 8 is that 3...
     
  14. Coinlover

    Coinlover The Coin Collector

    do you have a metal detecter? if so, the 1943 cent will have a different tone than a normal copper cent.
     
  15. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    So i weighed the penny, as well right after i weighed a steel 1943 penny and it weighed 3.1 and the copper penny weighed 2.55 so i dunno... i know it should be like 3.1 but steel weighs more than copper right so technically the steel one SHOULD weigh more?
     
  16. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    Also just to add, i weighed a 1935 wheatback penny and it weighed like the exact same as the steel one... the steel one stuck to a magnet WAY easy but the 1943 copper does not stick 1 bit to the magnet...
     
  17. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    1943 weight 2.70 grams composition, steel coated with zink diameter 19 mm plain edge.
     
  18. Just Carl

    Just Carl Numismatist

    To verify that it is Solid Copper you should try melting it down with a Butane Torch. If the remaining blob is solid Copper looking, you were right that it is not the steel version. Then there is the chance it is a fake. If so buy a slabbed 1948 cent, break open the slab, change the 8 to a 3, put your cent in it, reseal it, sell it for millions, skip out of the country. :smile :smile
    Sounds like the only sure way is to send it to a grading service for verification. Note that possbly the exact weight is ambiguous due to extensive wear. The Steel, Zinc coated ones were 2.7 grams NEW. Pre 1943 cents 3.11grams NEW. Post 43's were also returned to 3.11grams NEW until 1982 that is.
    Take a chance an for a few dollars have it graded. If real it will be well worth it. If not, have fun pretending.
     
  19. Check_M_All

    Check_M_All New Member

    That's the most logical bit of advice in this thread.

    and that's not really :)
     
  20. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    But it is the funniest. [​IMG]
     
  21. cogglews

    cogglews New Member

    !943 copper penny!!!

    The scanner idea worked!
     

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