1941 Wheat Penny Lamination Error

I am far from an expert and just find old coins to collect for my son. I came across this 1941 Wheat Penny and was curious if anyone could tell me how I can tell if this error happened in the making of the coin or after it was already in circulation. It looks to be a lamination error on the obverse side. But on the reverse side you can see that there are letters missing in the middle section of the coin that doesn't seem to pertain to the error of the obverse. Any thoughts or information provided would be much appreciated. If the pictures are not visible I'll try to get some different ones.

 

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The obverse is definitely a lamination. As for the reverse? Perhaps a grease-filled die. Not 100% sure on that.

 

Lamination on the obverse,
and the rev. looks like damage;
small chance it's a filled die, but
it's the obv. that has the error.

Due to an improper metal mixture
of the planchet strip itself, before
the blank was punched out of it.

 

If the loss of the lamination was pre strike,
couldn't the strike be affected?

 

That's a winner, @Jaded27h! Great find! That reverse, as said, is just smashed-in, it's just damage.

 

That wasn't exactly what the lamination looked like before much of it was torn apart by the strike.

 

Would you like to see an even better Lamination Mint Error? This one is mine and I sent it to NGC -

 

Are we playin' show and tell?

 

Nice... makes me think of the following movie...

 

I do have a few myself, if the loss was before strike, IE lost it in the upset mill. upon strike the metal would try to fill the void, and cause an incomplete strike. I believe that the center would try and fill metal first.
, expanding to the perimeter of the coin. This is a loss after strike. In the recess of the loss you can still make out the 19.

 

Thank you everyone for the quick responses!! Hopefully my son will enjoy having this coin in his collection!

 

That is sooo coool!

 

One of my favorite CRH finds.

 

Here is another cool lamination that I found CRH'ing.

 

Awesome. Did you find that in a roll or a bank bag?

 

Both were found in rolls.
The 2nd one came out exactly as shown. The 1st one was almost peeled all the way off.

 

With improper metal mixture, you will see the "woodie" look whick may or may not produce a lamination.
A true lamination is caused by a foreign object, usually just a piece of dirt or slag, in the molten metal and stays there after cooling, rolling and then punching. Many times, in steel manufacturing, the lamination will never be seen as it is inside of the large sheet of steel used, ei. desks, refrigerators, car panels.
Usually a small piece of dirt will elongate into a "void" that is several inches long.

Sometimes they are close enough to the surface where they can be seen with the naked eye, or large enough to cause most of the coin to split apart.

 

Awesome pics gentleman! Furryfrog, your show and tell one is most awesome!